My colleague and dear friend Robin Hanson has once again made the world of social media very angry. His response is to urge people to focus on his actual statements, not speculate about his “true motives.”
Let us instead revert back to the traditional intellectual standard: respond most to what people say, and don’t stretch too hard to infer what you think they mean in scattered hints of what they’ve said and done.
This is fine as far as it goes, but I sense a deeper problem. Critics often scold GMU econ bloggers for violating shared cultural norms. At the meta level, my response is: The critics presume we’re part of their culture. Frankly, we’re not. We have our own folkways, our own norms. These critics just don’t understand our culture.
What are the key differences between GMU econ blogger culture and mainstream intellectual culture? For starters:
- We value intellectual progress over emotional comfort. As long as speakers are polite, we blame listeners who get upset, not speakers who upset them.
- We are genuinely non-partisan. The Democratic and Republican parties both seem like absurd churches to us. Even if one is markedly worse, we’ll never join either because both are “often wrong and never in doubt.”
- The daily scandals that excite mainstream culture seem insipid and arbitrary to us. What matters are statistics, not emotions – and arguments, not stories.
- One bet is worth a thousand pages of punditry. At least.
- Giving in to Social Desirability Bias is a grave sin.
- Corollary: Don’t dodge questions.
- Hyperbole is the worst thing in the universe. Most problems and effects are marginal. If you’re really certain that X, you should happily bet at 1000:1 odds.
- Appealing to your identity is a reason to discount what you say, not a reason to pay extra attention.
- An argument doesn’t have to “prove” anything to be worthwhile; it only needs to change your probabilities.
- We’ll strategically appease mainstream thinkers, but that doesn’t mean they’re right.
How broad and deep is GMU blogger culture, really? It’s a continuum. Tyler Cowen might even claim to disagree with everything I just said… but he still exemplifies most of it. The important thing to know is that our distinct culture is thriving in your midst. We aren’t numerous, but we are a proud people. So please show some cultural sensitivity…
READER COMMENTS
Jon Murphy
Sep 21 2018 at 4:45pm
These 10 things really help discipline thinking.
Stephen
Sep 21 2018 at 10:19pm
“Hyperbole is the worst thing in the universe”
That’s why I like to read youse guys. You take what you do, but not yourselves, seriously.
Confused
Sep 21 2018 at 10:47pm
When I see this list, the only thing I can think of is LessWrong rationalism.
I’m somewhat new to the blogosphere, but reading LW and SlateStarCodex over the past few years has been one of the most enlightening experiences I’ve ever had. I recommend them to anyone who will listen.
Yet I’m consistently surprised that they’re not more popular in more official, prestigious channels. Academic bloggers often engage with their ideas, to the point where it’s clear that rationalism has a readership that’s highly prestigious/official. Yet they’re rarely explicitly promoted (Save your “Read Scott Alexander” post).
Is this because more prestigious/official bloggers find their ideas good but not great? Or do you all find the ideas as revolutionary and important as LW’s close followers do? Has there been a deliberate decision to not promote material that’s, admittedly, so “weird” and outside mainstream norms? Is online rationalism simply not fit for public consumption?
I’m not looking to say you all are right or wrong for whatever your decision and reasons are. I’m just wondering how it happened.
Sincerely,
Confused
Brian Mason
Sep 22 2018 at 12:27am
well said
Claudio Shikida
Sep 22 2018 at 6:22am
Very Well Done! The New Ten Commandments 🙂
Daniel Klein
Sep 22 2018 at 8:54am
#2: Is either D or R “markedly worse” than the other? If so, which?
#6: Hear, hear.
robc
Sep 24 2018 at 1:58pm
I think the evil party is worse than the stupid party.
The evil party is often stupid and the stupid party is often evil, so it can be hard to tell them apart sometimes.
Eric Rasmusen
Sep 22 2018 at 9:13am
I have 30 years of experience as an economist. That’s an excellent list. Most of it applies to Economics Culture generally, except for “10. We’ll strategically appease mainstream thinkers, but that doesn’t mean they’re right. ” True, that’s done in some blogs (you’ll know who I mean), and, as a justifiable rhetorical technique for use with the uninitiated it’s also used in op-eds by everyone, but it’s considered bad form in a workshop or an academic article. I’ll have to go back and read your links, though.
I particularly like 9 (An argument doesn’t have to “prove” anything to be worthwhile; it only needs to change your probabilities). This is very good for thinking about modelling. I hope to write somethign on the Ted Hill Math Double Article Suppression Kerfuffle today and it is relevant to that. It shows why the bad guys try to so hard to suppress even the slightest dissent— publication of an idea can move beliefs in it from 0% to 20%, a huge gain and one which gives traction for Bayes’s Rule to work. Also relevant to theological discussions, tho non-economists would deny it.
I will quarrel with calling 6 (Don’t dodge question) a corollary. I don’t see how it flows from 5. To be sure, 6 is essential to the list. It’s one of the worst sins an economist can commit at a workshop. Indeed, it’s also a huge blunder. Economists may look savage in their workshop commenting, but they’re not, really. Their aim is to test and improve a paper— to be sure, while showing how clever they are at the same time— requests for help from the presenter are well received, and mercy is shown to youngsters. “I don’t know,” or “Gee, that really is a problem; I’ll have to think about it,” are well received, the latter even being a flattering response for the questioner. But if someone dodges a question—then, all bets are off and it’s chow-time for the wolves.
Ray Lopez
Sep 22 2018 at 2:40pm
“We aren’t numerous, but we are a proud people. So please show some cultural sensitivity…” – Caplan wears heart on sleeve, noted! 😉 BTW I bought your latest book, a rarity for me, a Piratebay user.
Phil H
Sep 22 2018 at 9:25pm
Er… is this entire thing satire? I mean, if it is serious, then I’m afraid it will make me take Caplan significantly less seriously.
Things that appear to me to be obvious errors:
“Giving in to Social Desirability Bias is a grave sin.” vs “We’ll strategically appease mainstream thinkers”
“Appealing to your identity is a reason to discount what you say” vs “These critics just don’t understand our culture.”
“These critics just don’t understand our culture.” vs “Giving in to Social Desirability Bias is a grave sin.” (GMU is a society, too)
“We are genuinely non-partisan.” vs “Even if one is markedly worse”
“both are…never in doubt.” (you didn’t notice the Trump-related schisms in the Republican Party? That’s just not paying attention.)
“As long as speakers are polite…” (good Nazi, gentleman thief, friendly rapist next door)
And most comically: “We value intellectual progress over emotional comfort.” vs “These critics just don’t understand our culture.”
It seems entirely possible to me that Caplan was joking, in which case I apologise for missing the joke. But if he’s not… then this is a case of blindness to oneself that raises some quite serious questions for me.
Mark
Sep 25 2018 at 4:11am
‘“Giving in to Social Desirability Bias is a grave sin.” vs “We’ll strategically appease mainstream thinkers”’
These aren’t contradictory. Appeasing mainstream thinkers to accomplish something isn’t the same as trying to be socially desirable.
‘”“We are genuinely non-partisan.” vs “Even if one is markedly worse””‘
Also not remotely contradictory.
‘”“As long as speakers are polite…” (good Nazi, gentleman thief, friendly rapist next door)’
Huh? I’m not sure what your point is here. Assuming any reasonable definition of politeness, I think demanding the extermination of the Jews before your audience would be considered impolite. I don’t think he’s suggesting the only reason to get upset at a speaker is their tone.
Phil H
Sep 27 2018 at 3:44am
Thanks for the reply!
“These aren’t contradictory. Appeasing mainstream thinkers to accomplish something isn’t the same as trying to be socially desirable.”
Well… you didn’t give any arguments there, so I could just flatly state back: Yes they are. They’re exactly the same thing.
I will offer you an argument, though. You seem to imagine that “trying to be socially desirable” is always an end. I’d suggest to you that it’s not an end, it’s often a means. People use “being socially desirable” to get money/jobs, to win romantic partners, or to win arguments. What Caplan is suggesting is that GMU bloggers do the latter – they “appease” (pretend to accept positions they don’t really hold) in order to allow them to win political points. That’s… exactly what politicians do. It may be that Caplan doesn’t feel all warm and fuzzy inside when he cynically “appeases”; and that some other people do social desirability for the warm and fuzzies. I don’t care. They’re still engaging in the same behavior.
“We are genuinely non-partisan.” vs “Even if one is markedly worse”
If you believe and state (on a frequent basis) that one party is markedly worse than another, that is a form of party affiliation. You’re sending a clear message that you strongly prefer one party to another (even if you prefer other organizations much more). I hate the Dems, I just hate the Reps more = I love the Dems and I hate the Reps = I love the Dems, and I like the Reps but not as much.
“Assuming any reasonable definition of politeness, I think demanding the extermination of the Jews before your audience would be considered impolite. I don’t think he’s suggesting the only reason to get upset at a speaker is their tone.”
I think you’re misreading him. The kind of move you make there – where certain content is defined as “impolite” – is precisely the thing that Caplan objects to. The standard touchstone reference here is Skokie, where literal Nazis wanted to march through a town with many Holocaust survivor residents. When free speech advocates say free speech, they really mean it! They make an “unreasonable” argument, but it’s a powerful argument. I’m not a free speech advocate, because I think the “rules” of free speech (politeness, as Caplan has it here) can very easily be manipulated. But Caplan really does think that Nazis and communists and Islamists should all be allowed to have their say, and you can’t argue away his position with a reference to “reasonableness”.
Paul Bennett
Sep 22 2018 at 11:34pm
#7 is surely hyperbole!
Kristopher
Sep 23 2018 at 9:10am
Bravo.
Robert EV
Sep 23 2018 at 11:19am
The moment you use the term we, you aren’t non-partisan. And attaching the statement as the second of a ten plank party platform…what Phil H asks.
The question to me isn’t whether Caplan is joking, because obviously he is, it’s whether it’s flat-out satire or ha-ha-only-serious. And if ha-ha, then which parts?
David
Sep 23 2018 at 1:49pm
Definitely a lot of non-self-awareness here. For example, most people in the world think that they value intellectual progress over emotional comfort, so having this subjective belief doesn’t distinguish one from mainstream intellectual culture. This is just self-congratulation.
The lack of self-awareness is evident in the complaint of Robin Hanson, who wrote an entire book about everyone’s hidden motives, that people might think he has hidden motives.
Brenton Milne
Sep 23 2018 at 6:11pm
I have to ask, is the post title a reference to Leonard Cohen’s song Jazz Police?
They will never understand our culture
They’ll never understand the Jazz police
Jazz police are working for my mother
Blood is thicker margarine than grease
I’d bet 70% odds that it is. If not, it’s a great coincidence, the content of the song matches it very well.
https://genius.com/Leonard-cohen-jazz-police-lyrics
Mike Bailey
Sep 23 2018 at 6:21pm
This is fantastic, and whatever some of the commenters say, true of you.
Douglas Cameron Mauch
Sep 24 2018 at 4:59pm
Sounds like a reasonable philosophy.
Jeff
Sep 29 2018 at 3:38pm
Do you think any of the above explains why GMU seems to have just 2 female and just a few folks of color on your faculty? Is this optimal for maintaining the culture described above? I mean your team is Bryan, Tyler, Robin, Peter James, Don, Christopher, Jason … I love man of you but …. wow.
GMU Faculty page https://economics.gmu.edu/people/full_time_faculty
Chicago Faculty page https://economics.uchicago.edu/directories/full/faculty
A school in boston faculty page https://economics.harvard.edu/people/people-type/faculty
MIT https://economics.mit.edu/faculty
Eric Rasmusen
Sep 29 2018 at 5:20pm
If some universities will pay someone extra just because they are black or a woman, then black and women professors will go work at those universities. It’s Becker’s theory of racism.
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