During the 1930s, almost no one believed that the Fed caused the Great Depression. After a pathbreaking study of Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz, published in 1963, the economics profession gradually changed its view. By 2002, even a top Fed official like Ben Bernanke conceded to Friedman:
Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You’re right, we did it. We’re very sorry. But thanks to you, we won’t do it again.
Now Paul Krugman is contesting this view, in a new column in the NYT:
Friedman’s claim that monetary policy caused the Depression was central to his whole argument that governments, not the private sector, are responsible for economic instability, that depressions are caused by governments, not the private sector. . . .
And during the Depression, the monetary base didn’t shrink as the economy cratered — it actually grew, a lot:
Friedman and Krugman don’t disagree about the basic data for the monetary base, or the broader aggregates such as M1 and M2. Rather they disagree with how to interpret that data. I disagree slightly with Friedman’s views, but much more strongly with Krugman’s views. Here’s what actually happened, using the monetary base as a policy metric:
1. In 1929 the Fed tried to institute a tight money policy, in order to restrain the stock market boom. At first they failed. But in the fall of 1929, they raised their target rate to 6%, an astoundingly high level for an economy experiencing zero inflation. The monetary base immediately began declining, falling by over 7% between October 1929 and October 1930. By that time, industrial production had already fallen more than 27% below its July 1929 peak. The economy was now in a deep depression. Contrary to popular imagination, there was no financial crisis during the first year of the Great Depression—it was 100% tight money.
2. Krugman’s comment about the monetary base refers to the period after October 1930. A mild banking crisis began in November 1930, and then much more severe crises in 1931, 1932 and early 1933. This caused a large increase in currency hoarding by the public, as there was no deposit insurance at that time. This is where Krugman’s interpretation differs from Friedman (and me). The Fed was created primarily to supply adequate liquidity in times of banking distress. Before it was created, the banking industry had ways of dealing with financial crises that were certainly not optimal, but crudely effective. JP Morgan famously helped to quickly end the 1907 crisis, for instance. After responsibility for this duty was given to the Fed, it failed miserably. The financial crisis of the early 1930s was far worse than anything that came before the Fed was created. Although the Fed did inject some extra liquidity—increasing the monetary base—it was far too little to be effective. Friedman and Schwartz also note that the Fed also took counterproductive steps such as dramatically raising interest rates (by 200 basis points) at the worst possible time—in the fall of 1931. So it wasn’t all “errors of omission”.
[As an aside, the real problem in the US was unit-banking regulations, which explains was less heavily regulated Canada avoided banking crises. But that’s another topic.]
There is no doubt in my mind that the Great Contraction of 1929-33, when NGDP fell roughly in half, was caused by tight money. The Great Depression tells us absolutely nothing about the supposed “inherent instability of capitalism”, whatever that meaningless expression is supposed to mean. (Unstable under what monetary regime?) Nonetheless, I do have some reservations with Friedman’s interpretation. The Great Depression was global, and while the Fed’s role was very important (and destructive), so was that of the Bank of France, which hoarded large quantities of gold.
But the mistakes of the Bank of France would have had far less impact if it were not for the Fed’s tragically misguided tight money policy of 1929. It was that policy that indirectly set in motion a series of events (US bank panics, German debt crisis, UK leaving gold), which explain much of the massive French gold hoarding. Later in his life, Friedman conceded that he should have paid more attention to the role of the Bank of France (and other gold bloc members such as Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, etc.)
There is an uncanny similarity between the causes of the Great Depression, and the causes of the far milder Great Recession of 2008-09. As with the depression of the 1930s, the recession that began in December 2007 was triggered by a tight money policy that cased the growth rate of the monetary base to slow sharply. As in the 1930s, roughly a year into the 2008 recession a severe banking crisis caused a big increase in base money demand. As in the 1930s, the Fed partially accommodated that increased demand, but not fully. As in the 1930s, the Fed instituted a foolish policy that increased the demand for base money (higher reserve requirements in 1936-37, IOR in 2008.) As in the 1930s, there were bond-buying programs, and as in the 1930s the program was made much less effective by communication that led the public to see it as temporary policy that would not lead to higher inflation.
I don’t mean to suggest the mistakes in 2008 were anywhere near as bad as in the 1930s; indeed the Fed also did much better than the ECB during the Great Recession. But the mistakes were similar in nature, despite being much less severe.
You can dismiss my critique of the Fed as the raving of a monetary crank. I don’t care. All I care about is that the Fed seemed to quietly accept much of the market monetarist critique, and in 2020 did what we said they should have done back in 2008—commit to quickly returning prices and/or NGDP back to the previous trend line. And it worked—NGDP is right back on trend and jobs are easy to find, unlike in the early 2010s. (Maybe they overshot a bit, but at least they avoided a long period of a weak job market.)
READER COMMENTS
Andrew_FL
Dec 8 2021 at 2:17pm
France started accumulating more and more of the world’s gold stock ca 1927. They already had almost 20% of the world’s gold stock by 1930.
Scott Sumner
Dec 8 2021 at 2:28pm
That’s right, but the French gold hoarding of 1926-29 was not enough to tip the US into depression because it was offset by easier policies in the US and UK. After 1929, policy tightened in the US and UK. And French gold hoarding after 1930 was largely driven by the factors I cited.
Floccina
Dec 8 2021 at 2:38pm
Don’t we need compare the federal reserve system to the alternative of free banking?
Would the great Depression have occurred and been great, if the USA had free banking like Canada more or less had at the time?
Did it all start with the creation of the greenback to fund the civil war, which centralized base money creation before people knew how it worked?
Scott Sumner
Dec 8 2021 at 2:54pm
If we had the Canadian banking system I don’t think there would have been a Great Depression in the 1930s, although perhaps a small depression.
Mark Z
Dec 8 2021 at 3:20pm
Doesn’t this invite the question of why Canada still had such a severe Great Depression? Was this just because it was so economically intertwined with the US?
Andrew_FL
Dec 8 2021 at 3:32pm
The Canadian monetary base actually did collapse.
Scott Sumner
Dec 8 2021 at 5:04pm
Yes, Andrew is right. Canada was on the gold standard at the time. Thus they were forced to adopt the same deflationary policies as the US and France.
BJH
Dec 8 2021 at 2:46pm
(Great post!)
Mark Z
Dec 8 2021 at 3:34pm
I think Krugman has made this sort of argument before when he argued that Friedman is a hypocrite, even if right, because he supported government intervention (in the form of monetary stimulus) to correct the business cycle. It seems this is purely a semantic argument; it depends entirely on defining some monetary policy as the ‘default’ policy (it seems like Krugman and some Austrian types agree here that the ‘default’ laissez faire policy is to keep the money supply constant). That’s a pointless question though. Who cares how you define ‘intervention.’ What matters is if some monetary policy is sufficient to mitigate the business cycle.
Scott Sumner
Dec 8 2021 at 5:12pm
Yes, it’s like arguing that there are interventionist policies of steering a big ship, and non-interventionist policies. Actually if given control of a ship, you need to steer it appropriately. If the Fed is given control of monetary policy, it needs an appropriate monetary policy.
Thomas Lee Hutcheson
Dec 8 2021 at 3:55pm
Of course gold hoarding would not have contributed to the US depression either if we had not been on a gold standard. That was a separate policy error.
Geoffrey N Brand
Dec 8 2021 at 7:36pm
Most insightful post I have read in a long time.
Cheers
Benoit Essiambre
Dec 8 2021 at 8:56pm
>And it worked—NGDP is right back on trend and jobs are easy to find, unlike in the early 2010s.
This despite the much higher severity of the real shock this time around. I shudder to think about what we would have gone through if 2010 policy was attempted in 2020. I suppose the silver lining of the 2010s is that the learned lesson was timely and useful.
Kenneth Duda
Dec 9 2021 at 11:25am
Krugman drives me crazy by employing one of the sharpest economic minds in the world (his!) in creating pointless politically-motivated arguments. Like, take this line from his column today:
Seriously, WTH? The Fed’s job is monetary policy. You know, stable prices and full employment? Whether the Fed “caused” or “could have prevented” the slump is a completely pointless distinction. Either way, the Fed failed to do its job.
It’s sort of like Krugman insisting that *conventional* monetary policy is ineffective at the ZLB and therefore we need <insert favorite government spending program here> to restore AD. This argument is “true” if you define “conventional monetary policy” as Federal Funds Rate targeting, which does indeed become ineffective once the target is zero. The proper solution, of course, is better monetary policy (NGDPLT) that *is* effective at the ZLB. Krugman knows all of this, but he’s more interested in making a clever true-ish political argument than in actually improving monetary policy. Sigh.
Scott Sumner
Dec 9 2021 at 5:46pm
Yes, the errors of omission/commission distinction is pretty meaningless for monetary policy
Thomas Lee Hutcheson
Dec 10 2021 at 7:36am
A correct criticism of Krugman’s analysis, but It’s also true that given mistaken Fed policy (which can be described as “too high” interest rates), a larger federal deficit (if generated by expenditures with positive NPV’s even at the mistakenly “too high” borrowing rate) are an improvement.
marcus nunes
Dec 9 2021 at 12:44pm
PK: “monetarism — roughly speaking, the doctrine that says the money supply rules everything — was never supported by the evidence.”
He´s wrong:
https://marcusnunes.substack.com/p/monetary-policy-in-the-great-depression
Scott Sumner
Dec 9 2021 at 5:48pm
The “rules everything” characterization is an oversimplification of monetarism. Monetarists were aware that velocity changes over the business cycle.
David Seltzer
Dec 9 2021 at 6:20pm
I’ve spent the last year learning and reading microeconomics from online outlets and Econlog. This blog has encouraged a deep dive into macro. Thanks Scott.
John Hawkins
Dec 10 2021 at 11:33am
I think this is exactly right and also what gets people wrapped around the axel on this question. I think Doug Irwin has done a lot of great work on the Bank of France to help dispel some of the myths here. I think people’s instincts go something like “if it was a policy failure, then why was it global?” and the answer is basically:
1. The “global” money supply was linked to individual nations policy decisions by way of how the gold standard worked in that era
2. Many central banks made coincident policy mistakes at that time
I think there has been a good deal of ink spilled on (1), a little bit of ink spilled on (2), but not much ink spilled on why (2) happened. I think Scott that you have helped a lot on that last question, which I think boils down to “why does inherently tight money sometimes look like loose money?”, but I think there could be a lot more here. What are the necessary conditions for explosions in base money to not translate to NGDP growth? That is something I still have questions about (what causes the transmission channels to change their characteristics so much at given points in time). There are mechanical versions like interest on reserves, etc… but I don’t think those do all the work, but I think this is the last real question that needs to be fully answered to get everybody on board.
As an aside: I remember hearing an EconTalk episode with Tyler Cowen where he basically dismissed Russ saying “didn’t we learn all the right lessons from the Great Depression and then just not apply them? (when it came to bailing out the banks as a policy decision rather than staying in are lane and just getting the broad money aggregates fixed)” by responding something along the lines of “Well maybe you’d have gotten this bizarre situation where inflation is high and people can’t get money out of the ATM, so I’m not sure that’s right” – like, how can inflation be high if people can’t access their money? wouldn’t that have built back equity on all the banks loans? But anyways, I digress.
Scott Sumner
Dec 10 2021 at 12:32pm
Good points. BTW, I wrote a whole book on gold policies during the Great Depression. (I agree with Doug Irwin.)
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