There’s a lot of recent discussion about how the country has become increasingly polarized. One way of getting at the issue is by looking at the opposite question: Why weren’t we polarized in the past?
Here it will be useful to consider the mid-1960s and the late-1980s, two periods in which political polarization might have occurred, but didn’t. Furthermore, I’ll argue that the reason polarization did not occur in the 1960s is entirely different from the reason it did not occur in the 1980s.
For a period of several years after the Kennedy assassination in 1963, progressive views were considered much more respectable than conservative views. During what has been called “the liberal hour”, the views of anti-government conservatives like Barry Goldwater and segregationist southern politicians were viewed as quite disreputable. So why wasn’t there more polarization back then?
The big difference between the 1960s and today is that the two parties were much more ideologically diverse. Within both the Democratic and Republican parties there was substantial support for civil rights laws, but also substantial opposition. While there were differences of opinion on civil rights and Vietnam, the public did not segment into two “tribes”. The political figure in 1968 that most resembled Trump was probably George Wallace, who was a Democrat. In addition, the landslide victory of LBJ in 1964 made the steady march of progressive ideas seem almost inevitable.
By the late 1980s, the two political parties had become much more ideologically distinct. So why wasn’t the country much more polarized at that time? Why wasn’t Reagan the Trump of the 1980s? To understand that period, you have to look at the problems that progressives encountered after the 1960s in at least four areas:
1. In the 1960s, progressives tended to be anti-anti-communist. To sneer that someone was an “anti-communist” was a sort of insult.
2. In the 1960s, public policy became “soft on crime”.
3. In the 1960s, the welfare state expanded.
4. In the 1960s, public policy aimed to lower unemployment with rapid growth in aggregate demand.
Over the next few decades, a number of changes occurred that tended to discredit the progressive view on those issues:
1. Writers like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn exposed the horrors of communism. Pol Pot’s atrocities became better known.
2. The murder rate in America skyrocketed higher during the late 1960s and early 1970s, despite a booming economy. Poverty no longer seemed to be the “root cause” of crime.
3. After 1970, economic progress in the African-American community slowed sharply. People like Charles Murray persuasively argued that the welfare state was not having the intended effect.
4. The breakdown of the Phillips Curve led many economists to reject a policy of persistent demand stimulus, and adopt Friedman’s “Natural Rate Hypothesis.”
By the late 1980s, many progressives came to the conclusion that on some issues the conservatives had been correct. Democratic politicians became “tough on crime”, or in favor of “ending welfare as we know it”. Inflation targeting came into vogue. The collapse of communism was seen as a vindication of Reagan’s tough stance.
For all these reasons, the two parties remained unpolarized. They still had their disagreements over specific issues, but it was within the “reasonable people might disagree” framework. The Whit Stillman film “Barcelona” nicely captures how conservatism was respectable at that time.
In the 21st century, the GOP lost many of its key issues. Failures in the Middle East discredited neoconservatism. The Great Recession made neoliberal economic policies less popular. Some of the GOP’s best ideas were adopted by the Democrats. In response, the GOP turned to a set of ideas that might be called populist authoritarian nationalism. Things like the Muslim travel ban and “birther” theories. Challenges to the legitimacy of the 2020 election. To progressives, these views seemed more than misguided, they seemed disreputable, unacceptable, in a way that is fundamentally different from GOP views on tax cuts or Supreme Court picks.
Conversely, as the left became increasingly “woke”, conservatives felt treated as second-class citizens, unable to freely speak their minds.
Thus the political disputes of the 2010s became much more personal than the disputes of the late 1980s. Each side saw the other as not just misguided, but as evil. That’s a formula for polarization.
Reagan won 49 states in 1984 (as did Nixon in 1972). What are the odds of either party winning 49 states in 2024?
READER COMMENTS
Neil S
Oct 7 2021 at 10:27pm
Scott,
When you say Muslim travel ban, you’re referring to travel restrictions placed on seven specific countries with a combined population of about 135 MM…a little more than 7% of the world Muslim population, yes?
TMC
Oct 8 2021 at 4:11pm
The ‘Muslim ban’ that originated with the Obama administration only slightly updated by Trump?
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:37pm
No, I’m referring to the Muslim travel ban advocated by Donald Trump. The one the Supreme Court struck down.
TMC
Oct 8 2021 at 8:29pm
Supreme court upheld it
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/26/us/politics/supreme-court-trump-travel-ban.html
Mark Z
Oct 7 2021 at 10:50pm
One could be forgiven for reading your words starting with “in response…” as just a restatement of the fact that, “Americans got polarized,” rather than an explanation for *why* Americans ‘got polarized.’ I’m not sure there’s really much of a ‘why’ in there. And while I wasn’t around back then, I’m not wholly convinced people were more likely to view one another as merely misguided, especially in the 60s, which is passed down in conventional wisdom as a period of intense political turbulence and animosity (worse than today perhaps, certainly in terms of political violence).
BC
Oct 7 2021 at 11:21pm
I think the 60s activists didn’t necessarily have much power in the political parties, which were still controlled by professional politicians. In fact, I think that tension led to trouble in the 1968 Democratic Convention (before my time). After that, the primary process was “reformed” in a way that shifted power away from professional politicians towards rank-and-file activists, who tend to be more ideological.
Phil H
Oct 8 2021 at 3:48am
Right – the best known black rights political party, founded in the 1960s, was actually branded a terrorist group (I don’t know the history well enough to know if they really were). Makes BLM look like pretty weak sauce.
Perhaps Scott’s post has to be read as why there seems to be more acrimony among centrists.
TMC
Oct 8 2021 at 4:19pm
BLM and Antifa together would certainly qualify. Over 100 dead, a couple billion in property damage (not including businesses ruined), police stations and court houses destroyed.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:39pm
I’m old enough to recall the late 1960s, and there was far less polarization than today. Indeed I find the current level of polarization to be almost mind-boggling. I see families split apart over something as trivial as politics.
BC
Oct 7 2021 at 11:09pm
“The big difference between the 1960s and today is that the two parties were much more ideologically diverse….By the late 1980s, the two political parties had become much more ideologically distinct.”
But, I think the two parties are even more ideologically distinct now. In the 80s, weren’t there still liberal, Northeastern Republicans and conservative, Southern Democrats? I thought the primary process was “reformed” in the 70s (?) to make it more democratic. Previously, party bosses picked nominees in proverbial smoke-filled rooms. Party bosses wanted to win (general) elections and, thus, made deals to maintain “big tents”. Primary rank-and-file voters tend to be disproportionately ideological activists and impose more purity tests, which has caused the parties to separate more ideologically over time.. (That’s the story I hear anyways.)
In the 90s, the fact that Bill Clinton and Al Gore were centrists from the South was considered a positive, even by Democratic partisans. (This was well before Al Gore became a left-wing climate warrior.) Democrats wanted to compete in the conservative South. Similarly, Reagan picked Yankee Bush Sr as a running mate to maintain ideological and geographic “balance”. Today’s Democratic activists vilify Joe Manchin; in the 80s and 90s he would have been on the shortlist of presidential contenders (and would easily defeat Trump btw). Republicans did nominate Romney as recently as 2012 but, even then, there were grumblings that he was a “RINO”.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:41pm
Romney was just as conservative as Trump; the causes of the polarization lie in the areas where Trump is to the right of Romney.
BC
Oct 10 2021 at 5:18am
Romney was able to win statewide election as governor in Massachusetts. That he could both get elected in Massachusetts and win the Republican Presidential nomination makes him a counter-example to polarization. Similar to the way that Bill Clinton could win statewide election in Arkansas yet also win the Democratic Presidential nomination.
Frank
Oct 7 2021 at 11:54pm
I don’t get why polarization is a particular problem. We are not a family, we are a society, and we will healthily disagree.
Jens
Oct 8 2021 at 2:58am
There can be disagreement in a good family. And assigning the label “evil” without good reasons is never healthy.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:42pm
Families are being torn apart by politics, something I would have almost never seen when I was young. You have young people who refuse to date people of the opposite party. Is that healthy?
Michael Sandifer
Oct 8 2021 at 10:44pm
Scott,
You asked if it’s healthy to have people refuse to date across political lines. It is not healthy for the country, but if I may ask, if you were in a position to date, would you date a Trump supporter?
Scott Sumner
Oct 9 2021 at 1:03pm
That would make no difference to me.
Michael Sandifer
Oct 9 2021 at 8:56pm
That’s very interesting. I take your answer in good faith, but really wonder if you could be romantically involved with someone who was a QAnon conspiracy believer, wore a MAGA hat, etc. I’m highly skeptical.
I wouldn’t date a Trump supporter. There’s an utter lack of compatibility in critical ways, not only politically, but personality and character-wise. I don’t even talk to Trump supporters in my family, except for one uncle for whom I’m the representative payee for his disability payments. Often, he hangs up on me when we talk on the phone, when I express disbelief concerning all the conspiracy theories he throws my way.
Mark Z
Oct 9 2021 at 11:13pm
In my experience, at least among the 20s and 30s crowd, refusal to date Republicans/conservatives generally is almost as common as refusal to date Trump supporters (and most people in this age group regard libertarians in the same way; many include ‘moderates and centrists’ as people they refuse to date). Right of center policy positions in general are at least as prominent as Trump as ‘sine qua nons’ in dating, if you survey online dating profiles among younger people. It’s definitely not mainly a ‘Trump thing.’
Phil H
Oct 9 2021 at 11:33pm
Mark Z: “refusal to date Republicans/conservatives generally is almost as common as…”
Right, but I’ve alway seen this as an almost perfect mirror image of what conservative America used to be like. I wasn’t alive in the 50s-70s, so I’m going purely off media representations, but it’s my impression that there were vast swathes of people in those days who would disown their kids for crimes like being gay, thought interracial dating was a step too far, and certainly wouldn’t consider allowing reds into their houses.
Michael Sandifer
Oct 10 2021 at 8:15pm
The point I’m making in my second reply is that it isn’t just about supporting Trump, which is bad enough. Trump supporters have other characteristics which make them intolerable.
In my family, for example, the Trump supporters don’t just quietly vote for Trump and go on about their lives. They’re obnoxious vulgarians, and have acted a lot like Trump himself since they started following him. They never had the slightest interest in politics before Trump, and they speak about everything, including the craziest conspiracy theories you’ve ever heard, with absolute certainty. All are high school dropouts, and only one of them has worked at all in many years.
One of them is the sweetest old lady you’d ever meet, being full of southern charm and hospitality, but she posts the most hateful lies about liberals all the time. I once told her the information she was posting was incorrect, and she acknowledged that it might be wrong, but said she hated liberals so much that she would keep posting such things. She seemed to spend all day on Facebook.
I had a long-term relationship with a George W. Bush voter. It was never an issue. Trump is more than one bridge too far. I think it’s naive to simply say, “I wouldn’t refuse to date a Trump supporter.” More than just votes come with such a choice.
Also, for anyone who hasn’t been in the dating world in a long time, many things have changed radically.
Mark Z
Oct 11 2021 at 2:46pm
Michael (assuming it was a reply to me), my point was one needn’t be a Trump supporter – or anywhere near one – to merit anathema in many people’s minds. In most respects other than politics, I’m about as ‘blue tribe’ personality-wise as it gets. I used to think if I explain my disagreements with feminism or why I think capitalism is a good thing calmly and academically people would be open-minded, but more often than not, it’s the beliefs themselves that are sine qua nons. I’ve had people fly into a rage at me when I told them that I don’t vote. Had one person get upset when I casually mentioned I read a book by Steven Pinker (and it wasn’t even a controversial book, it was his book on language). These are all anecdotes, but I think they cohere the straightforward interpretation of what the surveys find: that many people really do just dislike people with different political beliefs, and that they’re not just signifiers of personality type or what have you.
Phil: so modern-day prejudices are a kind of just retribution of sorts, for old prejudices,… against people who mostly weren’t even alive back then? Viewed in a framework of moral individualism, references to past prejudices to rationalize present prejudices doesn’t even make sense under an ‘eye for an eye’ standard.
Michael Sandifer
Oct 11 2021 at 11:02pm
Mark Z,
I had a woman I was seeing end our relationship by hanging up on me when I didn’t agree Jamie Dimon was evil. She was liberal, so I’ve certainly been rejected by women on the left and right over political views, though it hasn’t happened often.
What’s more interesting to me is now dating has changed just over the past several years. The umderlying economics has changed, and it’s become a very miserable experience if one is naive.
Kaleberg
Oct 8 2021 at 12:33am
I’m not sure of your definition of polarized. If I remember correctly, we were pretty polarized in the 1960s. Between the civil rights movement and the Vietnam War, the nation was pretty much torn in two. True, the Republican party had a much broader tent back then and didn’t really enforce an official ideology or have a policy of scorched earth tactics until the 1990s, but the basic issues were there, and there were two nations that could barely talk to each other. It’s just that, back then, these two nations didn’t precisely line up with the parties. The Democrats still have a broader tent which is why you see so many Democrats in disarray articles. They haven’t had an ideological purge and they haven’t adopted scorched earth tactics.
(We were still polarized in the 1980s. It’s just that media coverage of the non-Reagan side completely vanished. They were out there, but they’d be lucky to get few lines a week in newspaper coverage and the networks ignored them. I get the impression Reagan managed the press ruthlessly, cutting off access for the least bit of criticism.
Also, US polarization never had much to do with communism. Hell, communism was debunked in the USSR by 1970, and the only thing holding the USSR in one piece was the Reagan “defense” push. At least that’s what Kennan, the guy who invented the cold war, said.)
TMC
Oct 8 2021 at 4:28pm
The press back then were quite liberal, but a lot less partisan. They had no issues taking their shots at Reagan, but the damage never materialized. This is why he was called the Teflon President. People like his folksy demeaner and wit which is why every Presidential candidate since (maybe til Obama), Republican or Democrat, tried to compare themselves to him.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:45pm
You said:
“I get the impression Reagan managed the press ruthlessly, cutting off access for the least bit of criticism.”
Your impression is completely false. As is your view of the 1960s, and your view of the attitudes toward the Soviet Union.
I am old enough to recall when “anti-communist” was an insult, like calling someone a McCarthyite.
IronSig
Oct 11 2021 at 8:07am
I’ve heard it remarked that George Kennan’s containment strategy was vindicated not by more boots, bombs and other intervention in Vietnam and Korea, but by withdrawal from Beirut and Soviet failure of their own interventions. Containment shouldn’t have recommended metaphorical skirmishes to prop up dominos, but by holding well-defended territory and playing rhetorical games.
I was unborn when the USSR collapsed, but I thought Zbigniew Brzezinski publicly called himself an anti-communist throughout the 60’s to the 80’s, even though he endorsed Carter’s Taiwanese slight to pivot to the PRC? Does Scott mean “anti-communist” was a label that gathered mud as it was slung around elections, treated with at worst dry sneers in policy-maker circles?
Andrew_FL
Oct 8 2021 at 12:39am
In the past we were not polarized because when the Democrats moved further to the left, the Republicans followed suit. Recently, the Democrats have moved so far left so fast that the Republicans couldn’t keep up if they wanted to.
20th and 21st Century American history is a stead march leftward. Any historical account that suggests otherwise, or offers some bogus claim that the US moved rightward under Reagan or Bush, is simply false. Reagan and Bush didn’t even slow down the steady march leftward.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:46pm
Actually, the Democrats moved to the right from 1990 to the early 2000s.
Andrew_FL
Oct 8 2021 at 11:33pm
No they didn’t
Michael Sandifer
Oct 11 2021 at 10:55pm
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry weren’t to the right of LBJ?
Alan Goldhammer
Oct 8 2021 at 8:27am
Scott – great reference to Whit Stillman one of the finest underappreciated film makers of our time. I think his debut film, ‘Metropolitan’, was his best.
Back to the topic, polarization has been endemic in the US ever since it’s founding. You can go back to the works of Richard Hoffstadter for more detailed discussions of this. For a more modern take on the evolution, Geoffrey Kabaservice’s book, ‘Rule and Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, From Eisenhower to the Tea Party’ is excellent.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:47pm
America is vastly more polarized than when I was younger; it’s not even close.
Todd Ramsey
Oct 8 2021 at 9:35am
From Jonathan Haidt:
First, humans are predisposed to divide the world into “us” vs. “them”. The fall of the Soviet Union dissolved the “them” around which we could coalesce an “us”, resulting in increased polarization since 1990. Further evidence of this idea: In the days after 9/11/01, the country became unified, for a short time. For a few weeks, we had a “them” again.
Second, the wider selection of news outlets allows each of us to view only reporting that reinforces our own world view and our priors.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:48pm
Good points.
KevinDC
Oct 8 2021 at 10:23am
This is a good point. A similar stylized fact I like to bring up about how politics used to be less polarized is Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She was confirmed to the Supreme Court by a vote of 96 to 3. That would never happen today. Back then, the norm was still widely accepted that a vote to confirm a nominee meant you were simply affirming that the nominee was qualified for the position – but that norm is long gone now. Instead, votes to confirm or deny a nominee are cast entirely based on “do I think this nominee will issue rulings the way I personally want them to?”, which is a totally different question. The vast majority of Republican Senators voted to confirm Ginsburg, and I don’t think a single one of them had any delusions that she was ever going decide cases in a way they would want.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:49pm
Good example, and there are many more. Look at use of the filibuster over time.
Mark Brophy
Oct 8 2021 at 11:33am
The country was much more polarized in the 60’s than it is today. Many people didn’t want racially integrated schools and others opposed the Vietnam War. Some conscripts emigrated to Canada.
Monte
Oct 8 2021 at 3:06pm
The country was much more polarized in the 60’s than it is today. Many people didn’t want racially integrated schools and others opposed the Vietnam War. Some conscripts emigrated to Canada.
Yes. Back when our government was for civil rights before it was against them.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:51pm
“The country was much more polarized in the 60’s than it is today.”
Just the opposite is true. People felt strongly about this or that issue, as they always do. But we are 10 times more tribal than today. The polarization is just off the charts. You see it in Congress, and in families being torn apart by politics.
BS
Oct 8 2021 at 1:41pm
Can’t really compare. No way to run an experiment with the Internet in the ’60s or ’80s to evaluate the impact of not having all information throttled by established agencies.
sean
Oct 8 2021 at 2:18pm
I think social media and more than just issues is causing a lot of this. Along with an idea that the majority of society is “Rich enough” now; so playing status games rather than economic growth gains in importance. Is it really worth working on growth to improve you Toyota to a Lexus today when you get more utility and status by proving your neighbor is a racists and unfit for society? We use to care about who had the bigger home…that no longer matters.
Also you completely underestimate how much of a disaster RussiaGate was and how much it made the right feel that they needed to compete everywhere with the activist. And now we are getting criminal charges against Hillary’s camp. Hillary’s attempts and successes with RussiaGate to undermine the 2016 election radicalized the right. Far moreso than 1/6. In the past the right was fine with going about their private business and letting the left have the activist; thats no longer considered a viable strategy.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:53pm
This sort of comment is part of the problem, not part of the solution. I’d encourage you to get your information from other sources.
steve
Oct 8 2021 at 2:56pm
You forget a couple of big things. There was a complete realignment in both parties, partially along geographic lines. The liberal Republicans all became Democrats and the conservative Democrats all be calm Republicans. The parties became more uniform with less room for outliers. As a result it meant winning the primary became the largest hurdle in many if not most voting areas. Only the most ardent voters tend to vote in primaries and those usually make up the more extreme parts of the parties. So you have had reliably right or left wing politicians who lose out to more extreme members of their own party. An AOC or MTG just wouldn’t happen.
Next, there is a whole slew of media, not just social media, devoted to keeping us divided, mostly by keeping people angry. The people who are really good at this earn millions, and they are really good at it. But even aside from those people there are thousands of others that just make a comfortable living at it or supplement their income nicely. Plus, they get to be important.
Steve
robc
Oct 8 2021 at 5:32pm
That isn’t exactly true. What generally happened (there are exceptions, of course) is that conservative Democrats died and their conservative kids became Republicans (and ditto for liberal Republicans).
It is why it took so long for states like KY to switch power in their state house. Conservative Dems continued to be elected long enough votes in other races had changed hands. It took death or retirement to change many of the districts. Same for the US House. Natcher served as a D for KY-2 from 1953 until his death in 1994. Ron Lewis winning the special election to replace him was considered one of the bellwethers for the GOP takeover that fall.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:55pm
You start off by saying:
“You forget a couple of big things. There was a complete realignment in both parties, partially along geographic lines.”
How did I “forget” that fact, given that I said the same thing in my post?
I agree that social media is a factor.
TMC
Oct 8 2021 at 4:38pm
“the GOP turned to a set of ideas that might be called populist authoritarian nationalism”
This is exactly backwards. From the Tea Party to the election of Trump, who ran on a deregulation platform, the GOP has been reacting to the left’s authoritarianism.
Larry SIegel
Oct 11 2021 at 3:11am
Trump’s deregulation and tax cut platforms were basically the only good things he did. We Libertarian Republicans noticed them but that didn’t make up for the horrible way he treated people, the weirdly aggressive personality, the assertion that only he could fix our problems (a typical dictator’s claim), and a million other reasons not to like him or allow him to become the voice of my beloved Republican Party of Coolidge, Goldwater, Buckley, and Reagan. If you think the average Trump voter was concerned with deregulation, you must know a different bunch of Trump supporters than I do.
TMC
Oct 11 2021 at 9:30am
Larry, deregulation is important to many of us. I don’t care for Trump’s pettiness either, but mean tweets are a small price to pay for a decent economy and competent foreign policy. I’d happy to vote for someone else with the same policies.
Daniel Klein
Oct 8 2021 at 6:10pm
How sure are we that in 1937 the country wasn’t quite highly polarized?
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:57pm
Yes, there was lots of polarization in 1937. But at least the Democratic Congress shot down FDR’s Court packing scheme. So there were still lots of people in Congress who were not tribal.
TGGP
Oct 8 2021 at 7:50pm
Rather than relying on your recollections of particular time periods, I’d rather see a political scientist present a graph of polarization over time.
Scott Sumner
Oct 8 2021 at 7:58pm
It would be interesting to look at how often people switched votes between the two parties during various decades.
Larry Siegel
Oct 11 2021 at 3:12am
My wife, the last moderate, switches every few years. Gore – Bush – McCain – Romney – Hillary – Biden.
Thomas Lee Hutcheson
Oct 9 2021 at 7:08am
It seems to me that the thing to be explained is the strong cross-issue correlation. Is there any logical reason that “everyone” who is anti-abortion should favor lower taxes on high income individuals, opposed to immigration opposes expansion of health insurance subsidies,
Gene
Oct 9 2021 at 12:49pm
I attribute most of the polarization to the intensely more decentralized way that we communicate now. The old gatekeepers in place until the 1990s or the turn of the century can’t perform that function any more. Broadcast media isn’t dominated by only 3 networks who all had a strong incentive to appeal to the largest possible audience in order to maintain their own market share. There was coverage of fringe movements and radicals in the past, but it was for the most part controlled by large TV, radio, and publishing interests. Today, radicals can build mass followings, essentially for free, via social media. Splintering is inevitable in the new environment.
cove77
Oct 9 2021 at 1:05pm
Scott,
I agree with gist of post but i think a more apt comparison is the elections of 2000 and 2020. 2000 was actually a close election with lots of drama. 2000 should have been incredibly polarizing especially with Supreme Court involvement. It wasn’t. Dems were more than disappointed BUT it was nothing compared to Trump/Republicans following a not so close 2020 election.
joe
Oct 10 2021 at 8:39am
Not sure about any changes in polarization, but if you think Trump is like George Wallace, you must not talk to many Trump fans. Wallace was a lifelong politician with extremely local appeal. Trump was a nationwide celebrity and a developer from New York and (very notably) not a politician. The reaction from the political (and ruling) class to Trump was more important to his supporters than anything he himself said.
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