Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs has sparked a lively debate among economists and others: are tariffs good? Maybe some of them? Should governments then impose those tariffs that are good? While these discussions are interesting in themselves, they also raise a more general question: what should economists be doing at all?
The title of this blog post is an echo of Buchanan’s seminal paper. However, while I allude to Buchanan, it is not his paper that I want to refer to. Rather, I want to point to another of Buchanan’s insights. Let me begin by quoting a revealing (and charming) story told by Richard E. Wagner, a student of Buchanan’s:
While sitting excitedly in class the first day, I saw Buchanan glance at his roll sheet. He looked into the room as if looking for someone in particular, then said: “Mr. Wagner, what’s wrong with the American tax system?” I felt an adrenalin rush.
After my summer’s reading, that question was written for me, or so I thought … Instantly I began reciting things I read that summer about simplifying the tax system by reducing exemptions and deductions and such things. Buchanan seemed to be paying close attention to me, which pleased me hugely. When I finished, however, he responded: “Mr. Wagner, you have no business answering a question like that. We are democrats here and not autocrats.”
The gist of Buchanan’s response (which also runs through his work, beginning with Knut Wicksell, whom Buchanan greatly admired) is that economists are in no position to determine what people should want or to judge what is good for them. There is no “truth” in politics, Buchanan tells us in his The Limits of Liberty. And if one agrees with Buchanan and thus rejects “the truth-judgment approach to politics,” it follows that, as he writes in the first chapter, “we cannot claim to play as God, and we can scarcely carry off the pretense that our own private preferences reflect his ‘truth.’”
Rather, it is up to the people—each and every one of them—to decide what they want and to be the evaluators of their lives. “A situation is judged “good” to the extent that it allows individuals to get what they want to get, whatsoever this might be, limited only by the principle of mutual agreement,” Buchanan tells us. It is not the job of economists—nor of political philosophers or anyone else, for that matter—to determine what is good for others.
Where does that leave economists? They have an incredibly valuable role to play: they are to examine the consequences of different courses of action and recommend different ways forward, given what people want. Thus, economists are concerned with prudence. They ought to give people prudential advice about what are the best means to pursue given ends—very much in line with economists’ aspirations for value-free science.
But let me hasten to add that this does not mean that economists should not chide the government for certain actions—indeed, this will often be their task. But in doing so, they must make it clear that they are only taking citizens’ perspective and not judging the governmental actions themselves. What I mean is that economists can criticise governmental action whenever it goes beyond the unanimous consent of citizens (because, to repeat, this is always the measure of “goodness”). But then economists are not putting forward their preferences—or their “truth”—but insisting that government accept the sovereignty of the individual. Economists should be democrats, not autocrats.
Max Molden is a PhD student at the University of Hamburg. He has worked with European Students for Liberty and Prometheus – Das Freiheitsinstitut. He regularly publishes at Der Freydenker.
READER COMMENTS
David Henderson
Mar 31 2025 at 2:17pm
I don’t get it. Don’t tariffs deny the sovereignty of the individual? Doesn’t sovereignty entail, among other things, that the individual is free to trade with other individuals?
TMC
Apr 1 2025 at 9:17am
No more than any other tax. It doesn’t matter to me why I have to pay more work hours for a product – a tax is a tax. A ban would certainly deny the sovereignty, but we have been doing that too for basically forever.
Mactoul
Apr 2 2025 at 12:37am
What does this even mean? An individual may be said to be a self-owner but in what sense he is sovereign? Sovereign over what or whom and how is it formulation different from or superior to the self-ownership?
Max Molden
Apr 2 2025 at 1:47am
David, much in agreement with your reply (and I think you get what I mean). The main point is that you are taking the individuals’ position. From their perspective, tariffs won’t be legitimate/good. But to constate this is not to put forth your own judgment, rather, it is to describe whether others agree. This is similar to describing a simple market exchange. You exchange fine EconLog articles for a dinner at a fancy restaurant, and we can then assert that you both benefit from your exchange. Saying so doesn’t entail my judgment that this is good, or that you should do this. Analogously, if someone coerces you to write EconLog articles for them, I can conclude that this isn’t beneficial for you. But, again, that is not my external judgment, but taken your perspective–and you didn’t agree.
With Buchanan, it’s about politics as well as markets as (voluntary) exchange.
nobody.really
Mar 31 2025 at 4:48pm
What Henderson said–and more of it.
If government requires 100% consent in order to act, I surmise government will virtually never act. Thus, we would NOT be democrats–at least, not according to any use of the term that I have ever encountered. We WOULD be autocrats–in the sense that each person would be a supreme dictator over her domain, which is herself, free (within the limits of the resources at her command) to disregard the concerns of her neighbor.
How to interpret the Buchanan story? Perhaps Buchanan chided Wagner for articulating how “the people” might not consent to the current tax system, rather than raising objections solely on his own behalf. That is, perhaps Buchanan chided Wagner for thinking that his analysis–even if it reflected the finest public finance theory–reflected some universal perspective, because Buchanan wants his students to stop thinking in terms of a universal perspective or “public good.” But that’s just a guess.
But I don’t know what authority Buchanan could cite for the proposition “[Y]ou have no business answering a question like that. We are democrats here….” That seems like a pretty autocratic assertion.
gwern
Apr 1 2025 at 1:12pm
My reaction as well. It is precisely because we are democrats, and not living in an autocracy, that a Mr. Wagner (and students with surnames starting with all the other letters of the alphabet) can and should have an informed opinion on what is wrong with the American tax code.
Max Molden
Apr 2 2025 at 1:57am
If the government never acted, would it be problematic? Imagine a world in which social cooperation wasn’t beneficial—would it be problematic if nobody exchanged? I certainly agree that unanimous consent is a demanding criterion, but given that we’re agents, there is nothing else to ensure mutual benefit from our interaction. As I wrote to Scott, I think that there can indeed be government action with unanimous consent, albeit that there will not be too many actions.
Being an autocrat requires interaction. Authority or rule must be over other people. A person who lives on her own, isolated, not interacting with others, can neither be democratic nor autocratic.
To elaborate on my interpretation of the Buchanan story. Buchanan always emphasised that, just like markets, politics can be an exchange. And if it is a voluntary exchange, we can conclude that everyone benefits. However, this does mean that the mark for mutual benefit in politics, just like in markets, is the unanimous agreement of everyone part of the exchange. So, just like I have no legitimacy to tell you what stuff to buy, where to work, etc, I do not have legitimacy to tell you how you should be governed. Now this essentially boils down to that there is no public good. And once you assume there is, you cease being a democrat but rather become an autocrat who wants to enforce his idea of public good on others. (But that is, of course, only my interpretation–I may be wrong.)
nobody.really
Apr 2 2025 at 4:27pm
This is a perennial topic on this blog.
1: Throughout history, people have exercised a variety of discretion—including the discretion to dump their sewage in the local river, which also was the local water supply. And throughout the last couple centuries, as population densities grew, people increasingly suffered water-borne diseases such as cholera. Then along came big, bad, coercive government to tell people that no, they could NO LONGER dump their sewage in the water supply—and indeed, people would have to contribute to bearing the cost of a sewer system to keep the sewage and the water supply separate. And as a result of this abusive treatment, lifespans doubled.
A similar story might be told regarding a variety of externalities.
2: I hypothesize that the world without government is, in fact, a coercive world. When I observe lions and apes, I observe a world where the strong coerce everyone else. So stopping government coercion does not equal stopping coercion; to the contrary, I see government coercion as a mechanism to manage private coercion (e.g., enforcing a criminal code). Now, you may reject government coercion on the grounds that the cure is worse than the disease—indeed, that may be the view of the “Defund the Police” advocates–but that still leaves the disease. After all, some people might argue that “being free of Russian domination” is a public good–but as we know, people who believe such things are merely autocrats hiding their own coercive agendas….
3: As described, the Buchanan system seems utopian—in the Greek sense of existing “no place.” If the Buchanan system had all the advantages alleged, how come we observe it … nowhere? If Ukraine had adopted a Buchanan system, how would they manage a Russian invasion?
Max Molden
Apr 2 2025 at 4:38pm
Although I would emphasise that problems are subjective, your response falls very much in line with Buchanan’s and my position. We (if I may speak for him as well) hold that there can be legitimate coercion, and that government can be beneficial to individuals. You describe cases of conflict in which the beneficence of government is evident. And you say that “the world without government is, in fact, a coercive world,” and this is essentially our position (although I’m skeptical whether animals can coerce). Because of this coerciveness, the commonwealth and its government are so instrumental, so important. Indeed, I take it to be a crucial insight of Buchanan (but also Hobbes and Locke) that there can be legitimate coercion, and that this legitimate coercion can be good for the citizens (which is why they consent to it).
So, I don’t really see why Buchanan’s system should be utopian, from your perspective. Rather, your position is the same as his–and mine.
nobody.really
Apr 3 2025 at 10:30am
And that may be true; I haven’t read Buchanan, so no doubt I’ve missed a lot of nuance.
But my position does not require the fantasy that everyone would consent to coercion. To take the most obvious example, I don’t expect coercive Russian soldiers to consent to people using coercive force against them. I don’t expect the Amish to consent to any use of force. I don’t expect minors, the insane, and people suffering from addictions to consent to certain policies, even if those policies are designed for their own good. I DO expect people to engage in anti-social behavior–criminal behavior, hold-out behavior (especially regarding paying taxes), externalities, sociopathic behavior–if they think they can gain an advantage by doing so.
In The Screwtape Letters, C.S. Lewis’s demon celebrates the fact that it is easy to distract Christians from their duty to pray for their persucutors (such as their mothers-in-law) by getting them to instead pray for hypthetical beings who bear no actual resemblance to their persecutors. Likewise, an old Peanuts cartoon depicts Linus saying “I love mankind… It’s people I can’t stand.” It’s easier to love things in the abstract than in real life.
As I understand it, Buchanan wants us to stop thinking about “the public” and instead think about individuals–but he then proceeds to ignore the great variety of real, flesh-and-blood, antisocial individuals in the world. In contrast, Jonathan Haidt’s Righeous Mind gives an account of a hunter/gatherer society trying to cope with a bully–and eventually forming a posse to kill that bully, very much without the bully’s consent. Haidt also reports that humans have a moral foundation that reacts negatively to domination, and suggests that this foundation evolved from the common problem of needing to meet force with force. I hypothesize that the need to control antisocial individuals may have prompted the formation of coercive governments in the first place.
I appreciate that people who embrace a policy of “meeting force with force” do not eliminate domination; they merely attempt to become the dominator rather than the dominatee. But people who reject the policy of meeting force with force pretty much guarantee becoming the dominatee. As William Ralph Inge remarked, “It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism, while the wolf remains of a different opinion.” And I suspect this dyanmic explains why we do not observe Buchananism functioning in real life.
Scott Sumner
Mar 31 2025 at 5:27pm
“What I mean is that economists can criticise governmental action whenever it goes beyond the unanimous consent of citizens (because, to repeat, this is always the measure of “goodness”). ”
What are examples of government actions that do not go beyond unanimous consent? In other words, what government action have unanimous consent?
nobody.really
Mar 31 2025 at 6:04pm
I can think of optional programs, such as making contributions to an individual retirement account (IRA). As I understand it, only people who consent to participate do participate. But, of course, this program derives its primary appeal as a method to mitigate the consequences of an underlying compulsory tax system.
If we understand the IRA as merely part of the underlying system of compulsory taxation, does it make sense to call the IRA voluntary? After all, when a mugger gives me the option “Your money or your life!,” I guess you could see my action in turning over my wallet as voluntary–if you squint really hard.
David Seltzer
Mar 31 2025 at 6:17pm
Nobody wrote; “Your money or your life!,” Funny Jack Benny story. I’m showing my age with this one. Benny’s radio character was reputed to be very penurious. On one of the radio episodes he was accosted by a mugger who demanded, “Your money or your life!!” There was a long pause. Finally, the frustrated mugger demanded, “Well! What’s it gonna be?” Benny said, “I’m Thinking! I’m Thinking!” The audience loved it.
steve
Apr 1 2025 at 1:21am
It was even funnier when he did it live on TV as he would assume that classic Jack Benny pose holding his hand under his chin clearly looking like he was thinking.
Steve
David Henderson
Apr 1 2025 at 9:58am
I still tell that one.
Max Molden
Apr 2 2025 at 1:38am
Scott, in political philosophy, the ground-breaking works of Hobbes and Locke demonstrated that a commonwealth (with its government) to which people unanimously consent is thinkable. My hunch is that conflict prevention and conflict resolution, i.e., getting out of the state of war of all against all, can find unanimous consent. The idea is simply that we can all agree that some individual or group of people should be in the position to consistently coerce us along predetermined lines. So, there can be legitimate coercion/government action. (This is essentially what Buchanan meant when he spoke of politics as exchange.)
Note also that it is thinkable that we unanimously consent to government action decided with less-than-unanimous consent.
Monte
Mar 31 2025 at 6:48pm
Economists need to keep their economics separate from their politics:
I think most on this forum would agree that the discernment of the voting public when it comes to economics is lacking, made worse by its re-infusion with politics. What the world needs today is another Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell, both champions of limited government and free enterprise and who were remarkably adept at connecting with the public, intellectually and emotionally.
Monte
Apr 1 2025 at 3:54pm
That said, I think the economists here at Econlib do an outstanding job of engaging with and educating commenters, but it’s an intellectual pursuit limited to a niche group of econ nerds. It seems to me, in order to reach a broader audience, that Libertarians should consider writing weekly columns or doing TV spots (like the 10-part PBS series “Free to Choose” that was extremely popular and influential). This could significantly amplify the impact of Libertarian ideas.
David Seltzer
Apr 1 2025 at 5:03pm
Good point Monte!
Monte
Apr 1 2025 at 7:39pm
Right? Another great ambassador for the sport of Economics that just came to mind is Henry Hazlett, whose widely read and influential NYT column, Economics in One Lesson, helped popularize free-market economic ideas and bring attention to the benefits of limited government and individual liberty in public policy.
Monte
Apr 1 2025 at 10:47pm
Correction: Hazlitt’s NYT column was called Business Tides.
nobody.really
Apr 1 2025 at 11:29am
Call their mothers.
Monte
Apr 1 2025 at 3:22pm
LOL! And maybe do a little more cooking and cleaning for their wives.
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