In a recent post, I talked about the difference between people who see equality as process where everyone is treated the same and plays by the same rules, and people who see equality as treating people differently and applying different rules to different people in order to ensure the end result is equal. For a variety of reasons, I am very much on the side of equal treatment, not equal results. But there’s another angle to this debate worth looking at – is there a connection between equality (of results) and justice? Or, put another way, is it the case that equal results are intrinsically more just, all else equal, than unequal results?
I don’t think they are. The recently deceased philosopher Harry Frankfurt wrote a book called On Inequality which raised arguments that persuaded me that while there might be instrumental concerns about equality or inequality, the simple fact of equality itself has no intrinsic value. That is, there might be reasons to prefer greater equality if greater equality is a means to providing some other benefit or achieving some other value, but greater equality has no moral value in and of itself.
A major problem with treating equality of outcome as intrinsically (as opposed to merely instrumentally) valuable is that it encourages us to do real harm to people in order to achieve this allegedly valuable end. After all, there are two ways to reduce inequality. One way is to improve the situation of the worse off. Another way is to inflict harm upon the better off. Each is equally effective achieving equality – but the second is so much easier to achieve. But put that way, would anyone really think this is a good way generate equal outcomes?
Sadly, yes. For as long as I can remember, shrinking the “achievement gap” in education has been considered a valuable social goal to pursue. When I was young, it was taken as given that the right way to achieve this end was to put extra effort into helping students who were struggling to improve their performance, thus closing the gap and bringing about more equal outcomes. In these more “enlightened” times, however, some schools have decided that the best way to achieve equality is to limit the amount high performing students are able to achieve. For example, this story in the Boston Globe talks about a school district that will no longer teach middle school students algebra. This is explicitly justified on the grounds that offering such “advanced math” would be harmful to achieving equality:
It seems that if you can’t achieve equality by helping struggling students do better with advanced math, then in the name of equality, you should just stop teaching any students advanced math. If nobody is able to achieve anything, there will no longer be an achievement gap. If equality of outcomes really is the measure of justice, then this method would have to be viewed as just.
In his recent book Living Together: Inventing Moral Science, David Schmidtz talks about how the socialist philosopher G. A. Cohen treated equality as the measure of justice, not a merely instrumental goal that might be useful to achieving some other end. Cohen imagined a situation where there were two different worlds, each where two people received some benefit. In one, each receives a benefit equal to a value of 5. In the second, one person receives a benefit valued at 7, the other receives a benefit valued at 6. To Cohen, even though the second world is better for everyone and the first world is worse for everyone, the first world is more just, because justice and equality of outcome are inextricably linked in his mind.
Schmidtz shows what’s wrong with this thinking by putting “flesh on the bones of Cohen’s example. Let Cohen’s vectors be units of life expectancy, as extended by alternative cancer treatments. Treatment (5,5) extends two lives by five good years each, whereas treatment (7,6) extends one patient’s life by seven years and the other’s by six.” To Cohen, the just outcome is the one where both patients end up with less life to live. This seems absurd on the face of it – Schmidtz invites us to “Imagine saying ‘Compared to (7,6), (5,5) is bad because the second patient gets one year less, but (5,5) is just because the first patient has two years less.’” I don’t want to live in a world where doctors are motivated by Cohen’s conception of “justice,” nor do I want my children to go to schools where teachers think it’s better to limit the ability of everyone to achieve in the name of keeping achievements equal. Schmidtz sums it up nicely:
READER COMMENTS
Richard W Fulmer
Aug 2 2023 at 12:17pm
The problem is not only that mashing human beings into equal molds hurts the better off, it also hurts the worse off as well (as you suggest later in your post). We all benefit from the genius of others: clean water, indoor plumbing, electricity, lightbulbs, painless dentistry, penicillin, automobiles, airplanes, computers, smart phones, the list goes on. to eliminate genius is to eliminate material progress – not just for the well off, but for everyone. Moreover, given incentives, the worse off can become better off. Dictating equal outcomes eliminates incentives and, again, eliminates them for everyone.
I think that Schmidtz has confused “social justice” with justice. Justice is giving to each his due – that is, what he has earned. Social justice is giving to each what is due another, the very definition of injustice.
Jon Murphy
Aug 3 2023 at 9:06am
I read the Schmidtz quote as Schmidtz responding to Cohen’s conception of justice, not Schmidtz’s own. So, I don’t think Schmidtz is confusing justice with social justice. I think he is arguing Cohen’s conception is confused.
David Seltzer
Aug 2 2023 at 4:44pm
“For example, this story in the Boston Globe talks about a school district that will no longer teach middle school students algebra. This is explicitly justified on the grounds that offering such “advanced math” would be harmful to achieving equality:” Then don’t teach physics, biology or general science as well; to achieve “equality.” Let me spit-ball a bit. No algebra, no foundation for understanding the things Richard Fulmer lists in his comments. No physics, possibly no Einstein, Oppenheimer, Bohr et al. No biology, no Jonas Salk…no polio vaccine. How bereft our world would be. We would be “equal” in shared misery.
steve
Aug 2 2023 at 7:37pm
I think the huge majority of people want equality of income. Equality of outcomes just isn’t realistic. However, if one side consistently wins and the other consistently loses it does suggest that you ought to at least question if the opportunity was really equal. If you ever played craps you know it is certainly possible for someone to throw a 7 two or three times in a row. After the 10th time in a row you might want to look at the dice.
Steve
steve
Aug 3 2023 at 11:28am
That should say huge majority want equality of opportunity.
Steve
Kevin Corcoran
Aug 3 2023 at 5:08pm
Perhaps, but at the same time, this will depend on how strongly one accepts the implicit premise that equal opportunity consistently leads to equal results. If “equal opportunity leads to equal outcomes” is taken as a premise, then yes, unequal results gives you reason to think opportunities were also unequal, but only in a question-begging way. And I don’t think the craps example is a good one. If someone throws a seven ten times in a row, that seems suspicious because the outcome of a dice throw is only influenced by the randomness of how the dice are thrown – there are no other relevant factors which might create an unequal distribution. But between individuals or populations, opportunities are one factor among many that can alter outcomes and the distributions of outcomes in both the short and long term.
For example, Scott Alexander has pointed out:
I suppose one could, to use your terminology, see that as Jewish people consistently “winning” and Christians “losing”, whatever that means. But I’d be hard pressed to say that we should be questioning whether Christians in the US have really been given the same opportunities as Jewish people – if anything, I suspect US history and institutions have been particularly favorable to Christians over other religious groups. The differential outcomes here don’t seem to suggest more to me than the idea that even with the same opportunities, different populations can consistently achieve different outcomes, because initial opportunities are only one relevant factor among many. Alexander also points out in that essay how “every ethnic group is different from every other ethnic group, including in socioeconomic status, with white people usually somewhere around the middle. If you dismiss every group that does better than whites, then you can tell a story where all inequality is caused by white people controlling everything and creating covert structures/institutions that favor whites. If you don’t dismiss those groups, the story becomes harder.”
Mark Perry has for many years showed data from the US Census Bureau on median household income for different racial and ancestry groups – in the 2021 data, for example, white Americans are in 20th place, and for years have consistently placed behind Indian Americans, Filipino Americans, Syrian Americans, Pakistani Americans, Iranian Americans, and so forth. Again, maybe this suggests to you that we should question whether white Americans have had opportunities that were “really equal” to that of Americans of Iranian or Syrian descent – but that’s far from obvious to me.
nobody.really
Aug 7 2023 at 7:43pm
Really? I have difficulty reaching any other conclusion.
Look, I’m happy to acknowledge the concept of free will/autonomy as a causal variable. But if we really believe in it, then I would expect to find that outcomes do NOT correlate with race/religion/whathaveyou. But that’s not what we find. This strongly suggests that people are heavily influenced by circumstances of their birth–circumstances over which they exercised NO control. In brief, yes, I question whether white Americans have had, on average, the same opportunities.
Why do we find such high performance of Indian Americans et al., relative to the norm? Maybe because those immigrants are explicitly NOT the norm. Normal Indians live in India. In contrast, Indians immigrants have expended great effort and expense to separate themselves from the norm; they are a self-selecting subset of the norm. And the children of these Indian immigrants will tend to carry over many of their parents’ exceptional qualities. But again, the children of these Indian immigrants never chose to be the children of Indian immigrants. They have tended to have the advantages and disadvantages of being the children of Indian immigrants–NOT by choice, but by circumstance thrust upon them.
I don’t say that these circumstances are, on balance, good or bad. I don’t ask you to pity or blame them. I merely ask you to acknowledge–as the data pretty forthrightly demonstrates–that they came from circumstances that differ from the US norm, and that they end up living lives that differ from the US norm.
Having acknowledged that, I defy you to say that the correlation between those atypical circumstances and the atypical results are simply chance, a pure function of each individual’s free will. This is the challenge of sociology: It requires us to acknowledge the forces of social context and the limits of free will (alas, a challenge that many economists fail to meet).
I sense what you MEAN to say is that US government policy–policies such as the enforcement of slavery and Jim Crow laws–may not be the causal variable. And in this, we may find a lot of agreement.
But I return to may favorite hypothetical: Two musicians–J.S. Bach and Justin Bieber–have achieved astronomically different levels of wealth. What accounts for the difference? Exhaust yourself trying to generate an argument that explain this difference in terms of each individual’s personal qualities and free will. Then finally resign yourself to the inescapable conclusion that their different wealth had next to NOTHING to do with their personal qualities, and almost everything to do with differences of circumstances over which they exercised no control whatsoever.
“I was a victim of a series of accidents–as are we all.” Kurt Vonnegut, The Sirens of Titan. The idea that we deserve our outcomes is mostly a comforting illusion. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation–but long-standing correlation still requires some explanation. Feel free to deny this claim, but few people will regard willful blindness as a compelling basis for argument.
Jim Glass
Aug 2 2023 at 11:25pm
An old Russian joke heard many years ago when studying there, told to explain their national character: God visits Dimitry and says “You have been a good and holy man so I will grant you whatever you wish, gold, a dacha, whatever you choose. And your neighbor Ivan has been even more good and holy than you, so he will receive twice what you choose, twice the gold, two dachas.” Dimitry relies, “Lord, make me blind in one eye.”
The Superintendent’s position is both absurdly stupid and destructive of course. Even Albert Shanker, who drove the unionization of America’s public school teachers — and was deemed so dangerous he might blow up the world * — outright rejected this idea. Point is, this idea has been around so long in the schools that Shanker had to deal with it back then, in the 1970s and ’80s. I used to think it arose and persisted institutionally as a baptists-bootleggers type thing, the lefities who are so invested in the schools’ management and unions sincerely believe inequality is evil per se, as a vestige of their Marxist heritage — and it is of course far easier for them to reduce it by moving the top down than the bottom up. No need for accountability in that!
But I don’t believe it any more. The urge to bring the top down to reach “equality” is so universal across societies, nations and history, it looks to be baked into our DNA. Marxism got its great persuasive power from it. It is behavior that was adaptive for 300,000 years and thus now is literally instinctual in us …
”Hunter-gatherer societies are scrupulously egalitarian, but not harmoniously so. They’re violently egalitarian.” Dr. Herbert Gintis
… after it’s suddenly become socially obsolete. Put it in these terms, one can see the root of where the likes of G. A. Cohen’s (and Dimitry’s, and Marx’s) thinking comes from. Parsing it with counter-logic or political-economic analysis misses the root of the problem, and so is not going to be any more effective now than it’s ever been before.
Alas, the evolutionary psychologists can list a lot of other “suddenly obsolete” behaviors cooked into our DNA set to cause our world problems…
[* “What kind of government have you got here? This is worse than California.” Things never change. 🙂 ]
Kevin Corcoran
Aug 3 2023 at 6:50pm
Hey Jim –
Good comment. As it happens, the idea that “urge to bring the top down to reach ‘equality’ is so universal across societies, nations and history, it looks to be baked into our DNA” is something I’ll be touching on in an upcoming post that serves more or less as a sequel to this, so it’s fun to see that your mind was going in a similar direction. Cheers!
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