Libel law is back in the news what with some public rethinking (more like wailing and gnashing of teeth) about New York Times v. Sullivan. Should public figures be more or less protected from being libeled is one issue that has arisen. Another is exactly who is and who is not a public figure? Then there is the question of whether or not “actual malice” should be a requirement for libel. And where does the First Amendment fit in to all of this? Justice Clarence Thomas and Senior Judge Laurence Silberman are thinking out loud about restructuring Sullivan.
These questions do not go deep enough. Instead of seeking “balance,” and fine-tuning this legal precedent, we should dig deeper. Of more basic moment is the question of whether libelous speech ought to be unlawful in the first place.
At the outset, this seems like a silly question. Slander ruins people’s reputations. The victims of this practice can lose their jobs, friends, marriages, the respect of the general community. Surely, there should be at least some protection for them? Yes, but not a legal one.
Why not a course of action in court? Is not libel akin to theft? Only in this case, what is being stolen is more important than ordinary goods like shoes or coats, or even automobiles or boats in many cases.
We are accustomed to referring to people’s reputations as if they were owned. My reputation, your reputation, Jim’s reputation. This is more than a little bit misleading in that people don’t actually possess the reputations that refer to themselves.
Rather, Jim’s reputation consists of the thoughts (and predilections to act in certain ways) of other people, not of what he thinks about himself. His reputation, paradoxically, consists solely and of nothing but the thoughts about him on the part of his neighbors, family members, bosses, fellow workers, sports team members, bowling league colleagues, etc. Since he cannot own these possessions of other people, their thoughts about him, he cannot, somewhat surprisingly, own his own reputation. Thus, libel laws of whatever variety, type or degree, are unjust; they protect people from losing what isn’t really theirs in the first place.
Here is a paradox. Reputations would actually be safer, in most cases, without laws against slander and libel. For nowadays if a reputation is besmirched, especially by the mainstream media which reaches millions, people are likely to believe the smear, at least partially. “Where there’s smoke there must be at least a little fire,” might be the common reaction. These attacks occur relatively infrequently, and thus also tend to stand out. But without such legislation, the slurs and insults would come thick and fast. There would be so many, they would lose their relative power to reduce people’s standing in the community. No longer would mere allegations suffice. Now some sort of proof or evidence would be required before one’s character would suffer.
So let us not fine tune around the edges of libel law, making marginal changes and adjustments as to who is and is not a “public figure.” Don’t we all have the same identical rights, no matter how public our persona? Instead, let us repeal this spate of legislation root and branch, and overturn judicial findings supporting this mischievous unjustified legal tradition.
Walter E. Block is Harold E. Wirth Eminent Scholar Endowed Chair and Professor of Economics at Loyola University New Orleans
READER COMMENTS
Alan Goldhammer
Jun 12 2021 at 1:47pm
This proposal likely would shut down this blog so that Mercatus Center does not face endless litigation.
Jon Murphy
Jun 13 2021 at 9:16am
I don’t understand your comment.
First, it’s unclear what you think Mercatus and this blog have anything to do with each other or libel
Second, if libel law is removed, there would be no “endless litigation.”
David Henderson
Jun 13 2021 at 11:21am
I wondered about too: what this has to do with Mercatus and why ending the prospect of litigation would increase litigation.
Alan Goldhammer
Jun 13 2021 at 6:50pm
Look at what happened when Peter Thiel funded the law suit against Gawker on behalf of Hulk Hogan. Removal of all libel laws will simply make litigation the norm and make discussion websites as this one conscious of that fact. There are lots of off handed comments by bloggers and those who comment on the posts here and if you don’t think that someone well funded could go after the site then you are naive. Obviously a legal standard would have to be met but it would be far easier to sue.
BW
Jun 13 2021 at 7:23pm
Just to be clear, when this post says “remove libel laws,” it doesn’t mean: removing Section 230 immunity from liability for third-party libels on your website. It means: removing libel as a valid cause of action for any lawsuit.
Also, The Library of Economics and Liberty (this site) is owned by Liberty Fund, not Mercatus.
AMT
Jun 12 2021 at 1:55pm
The point about property and ownership is irrelevant. Did you not know, that it is a criminal act to harass someone? Does that surprise you because there is no “physical” attack or property damage? Obviously ownership of anything is completely meaningless, because the issue is the harm caused. Therefore, it is absolutely not a “mischievous unjustified legal tradition.”
I just don’t think this assumption is true. As it currently stands, cancel culture attacks don’t even need to make logical sense, yet very many people still feverishly jump onboard, so I’m doubtful that more of it will dilute the effect very much. “Where there’s smoke there must be at least a little fire,” will probably still hold true, and we end up with a lot more libel, and less trust in people across the board because it will be a whole lot harder to find out the truth about anyone.
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Jon Murphy
Jun 12 2021 at 2:30pm
As a point of fact, harassment does revolve around property and ownership, specifically one’s right to be secure in his own person.
The point the Block brings up (and one that has been debated since at least Adam Smith. See, for example, his Lectures on Jurisprudence ) is that one does not have ownership over other people’s thoughts. Those thoughts concern you, yes, but they are not owned by you. So, one may have a right to be secure in one’s person (eg, free from harassment), but not have a right to be secure in other people’s thoughts.
AMT
Jun 12 2021 at 4:23pm
Harassment has absolutely nothing to do with “property and ownership” of property (besides the tangential possibility of being harassed on your own property, which is beside the point). That makes no sense whatsoever.
You unsurprisingly misunderstand the argument. No one is saying you have a right to a good reputation or to control what other people think of you (“secure in other people’s thoughts”). What you do have a right to, is over what others say about you: to not be intentionally, maliciously attacked by someone spreading lies about you. This is because, as you say, “those thoughts concern you,” and obviously cause you harm.
Jon Murphy
Jun 12 2021 at 4:30pm
So, I either have a right to people’s thoughts or I don’t. Pick one.
If I have a right to people’s thoughts, then and only then can I stop them from believing or spreading lies. If I do not have a right to people’s thoughts, then I cannot stop them.
Libel only causes harm if it changes someone’s thoughts about me. If you were going to get a job but then you don’t because of something I said about you, then it is because your potential employer changed his thoughts about you. If one doesn’t have the right to another’s thoughts, then one cannot claim harm. That’s the point here.
Again, I urge you to dig into the jurisprudence of the issue. I can provide citations, if you wish.
AMT
Jun 12 2021 at 5:36pm
Yes, it is a restriction on speech, but NOT on thought. The person(s) who change(s) their mind(s) with a reduced opinion of the victim are the damages incurred by the victim (which is why this must occur, because without damages the suit is not ripe for adjudication). The person who’s opinion of the victim changes is not punished because, AGAIN, everyone may think whatever they want. Their changing opinion is not restricted, and is not the action that we are prohibiting through libel law, it is the speech.
Jon Murphy
Jun 12 2021 at 6:26pm
There! There is the claim of property in another’s thought! Right there! You cannot claim damages on something you do not own.
Jon Murphy
Jun 12 2021 at 9:24pm
By the way, you did get me wondering about the precise origin and evolution of slander and libel in the common law.
Well, according to the famous legal historians Sir Frederick Pollock and Frederic Maitland, slander and libel law comes from Roman law, which treated libel as an assault (assault itself being a type of property crime, as a free Roman owned his body).
Interestingly, the Church also took up libel and slander in canon law, as it was considered an assault on one’s soul.
AMT
Jun 14 2021 at 1:02pm
To clarify, tort law is the remedy for a wide variety of civil claims. Property damage is one of those types of claims, but you were arguing that libel is about property damage, because it is a tort, which is incorrect. The fact it is a tort doesn’t say it is about property.
Jon Murphy
Jun 12 2021 at 2:24pm
I do think this is an important point, especially when we consider the decision of whether or not to defend one’s self in court. Litigation is very expensive and oftentimes it is cheaper to ignore libel and slander than fight it. But it also opens one up to the argument “well, if it was false, why didn’t he fight it?”
Mark Brady
Jun 12 2021 at 3:35pm
https://www.nola.com/news/education/article_8ee05c4c-e8a3-59b8-bbd8-08a792355da8.html
AMT
Jun 12 2021 at 4:26pm
ROFL!!! Excellent, thank you Mark!
Phil H
Jun 13 2021 at 5:01am
Yeah, that’s pretty funny… Of course, this kind of a “gotcha” is not a conclusive argument. But I think Block should consider what his readers now see:
I’ve seen Block’s own assertion that he believes there should be no libel laws – in the course of which, he also points out that in his ideal world we would look for “some sort of proof or evidence” about his “character”. I’ve also seen evidence that he *does* in fact make use of libel legislation.
My conclusion at this point is that he’s a hypocrite (and, according to the judge, a race baiter!). Now Block presumably believes that if I saw *more* evidence – the “complete” evidence – then I would realise that he’s not a hypocrite. (I’m assuming that Block doesn’t joyfully embrace the hypocrite label.) And maybe he’s right! But am I going to look for this evidence? Is it worth my time?
A gotcha is not conclusive, but it *is* evidence.
Jon Murphy
Jun 13 2021 at 8:45am
Interestingly, Phil’s comment is evidence of my point that the mere existence of libel law leads to the incorrect perception of information.
Phil writes:
Of course, the court did not make any ruling on the factfulness of “race baiter” nor whether or not Block is a hypocrite. That is not what libel law does. All that happened is the court ruled there was no libel here.
To many people, the ruling would given the illusion that there is evidence of hypocrisy and race-baiting. But it is simply an illusion created by misunderstanding of the law and what courts do.
Thus, the libel law results is less and likely less accurate information available.
Mark Z
Jun 13 2021 at 3:18pm
I don’t think it’s necessarily hypocritical to try to get a law enforced that you don’t think should exist, on the basis that symmetric and uniform enforcement of a bad law may be be less bad than the asymmetric enforcement of a bad law. People who oppose said law refusing to get it enforced would simply amount to unilateral disarmament. E.g., if blasphemy laws exist, you might oppose them, but if people are getting away with blaspheming against your religion, I don’t think it’s necessarily hypocritical to tell the authorities on them because you think uniform enforcement of blasphemy laws is better than selectively enforced blasphemy laws.
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