Yesterday, a libertarian friend in Ottawa, Janet Bufton, posted an article on the truckers’ protest. It’s titled “Canada’s Freedom Convoy Is Undermining the Cause of Freedom.”
She makes some of the points I made in my critique of the protestors closing down the Ambassador Bridge. But she goes into much more detail, probably because she lives in Ottawa, about some of the goings on. She has the advantage of local knowledge. Some of the goings on are not pretty.
I recommend that you read her post.
Here’s one excerpt:
Meanwhile, truckers have taken to blaring their horns in shifts from early morning until late at night. They stopped for four days last week after a court injunction, only to resume again in defiance of the injunction. They’ve heckled pedestrians, harassed homeless shelters, encouraged supporters to overwhelm 911 lines, and closed downtown retail stores and restaurants. And, of course, there have been multiple border blockades, including one where some protesters were heavily armed.
Janet argues that a group called Canada Unity planned the convoy even before PM Justin Trudeau imposed a vaccine mandate, which he had said in May 2021 he would never do (go to the 10:00 point in the video), on truckers. She seems to think that this makes the convoy suspect. That might be right. But there’s another way of thinking about it. Imagine truckers and others who really are genuine fans of freedom and are looking for a way to express it visibly. They hear about this convoy. They decide to participate. So their own sincerity is not at issue. A crucial question is “What percent of the protestors are genuine believers in freedom and what percent are people with a very different agenda?” Janet doesn’t address this.
She ends by writing:
Sticking up for the rights of protesters does not mean giving them a pass on their tactics or their delusions. The Freedom Convoy is actually hurting the cause of freedom. Valorizing it is a mistake.
You should never give people a pass on their delusions. But you should give them a pass on their tactics if their tactics are peaceful. Much of what she described in her earlier paragraph I quoted may not be peaceful. Certainly, if they’re physically blocking people from going about their business, they’re not peaceful. That was my point in denouncing the protestors who closed the Ambassador Bridge. But I would bet that a lot of what the protestors are doing is peaceful. I would want more details and I think it’s important to judge people as individuals and not regard them as part of an amorphous group.
I think that Janet understates the good effect the protestors have had already. She does give them some credit, writing:
Convoy supporters might be right that Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba dropped restrictions as a result of the protests. Likewise, the premier of Saskatchewan has suggested strongly he was responding to the protest.
That’s nothing to sneeze at. Those provinces’ populations, added together, are 18% of Canada’s population. But I think she undercounts. Quebec’s government has not only dropped its plan to tax people who are unvaccinated, but also, on February 8, announced easing of Covid restrictions by mid-March. While Quebec premier Francois Legault claims he was not influenced by the protests, that’s hard to believe, given the direction he was going in–taxing the unvaccinated–just a month earlier. Quebec accounts for another 23% of Canada’s population. That’s 41% of Canada’s population living under provincial governments that arguably have been influenced by the protests. Not bad for a few weeks’ work.
Janet writes further:
But in other provinces across Canada, pandemic measures are being rolled back in line with long-standing plans. Ontario eased some of its provisions before the first trucks even hit the road. Moreover, the province’s announcement this week that it will end its vaccination passport requirements on March 1 is broadly in line with reopening plans set out last fall.
Maybe. We’ve seen a lot of “long-standing plans.” How about “2 weeks to flatten the curve?” Or how about mask mandates lifted in Californian and then reimposed? I would want to see more evidence for her confident claim. And notice the timing of the Ontario government’s announcement that it will lift its vaccination passport requirements. Should we really conclude that the protests had no effect on this announcement? Note that Ontario has 38% of Canada’s population. So now we’re up to 79% of Canadians living in provinces that the protests arguably influenced to drop restrictions.
I think some readers of Janet’s piece have been uncharitable, by suggesting that she is not against Trudeau’s taking on emergency powers. She doesn’t spend many words on it, but I think her statement “This is all terrifying” puts her squarely on the side of the people who oppose this totalitarian measure.
Janet says one thing that I don’t quite understand. She writes:
The cure would be to persuade the protesters to abandon the alternate reality they have created for themselves amid a hothouse media environment steeped in conspiracy theories. They need to return to a shared reality with their fellow Canadians. No polity can function without some such common ground and common understanding of basic facts. Unfortunately, this hasn’t proven an easy problem to solve anywhere.
I’m not sure that a polity can’t function without “a common understanding of basic facts.” Most people don’t understand the basics of gains from exchange. Most people don’t understand that Jeff Bezos’s wealth comes about largely from helping others and that those others, in total, gain more than he does. And yet our polity functions reasonably well most of the time.
I think it would be wonderful to have a shared reality based on understanding of basic facts. But I’ll settle for a government not imposing its understanding of reality, to the point of requiring vaccines and masks, on others.
Janet is pessimistic. She writes:
Some U.S. commentators believe that if Canada simply dismantled its mandates and restrictions, the protesters would melt away.
The problem is with her term “the protesters.” Some would melt away; some wouldn’t. How about trying it and seeing? And even if some protestors remain, the feds would be dealing with a smaller problem.
READER COMMENTS
Andre
Feb 18 2022 at 9:23pm
*they* and *their* does a hell of a lot of work in the arguments of critics – it’s all a big jumble of fallacies of composition and division
The Ottawa convoy leaders have been crystal clear that their protest is about ending mandates and that the protests are to be peaceful – which they have been. The fact that some people attach themselves to the protest and have weird or ugly beliefs, or start up side protests elsewhere doesn’t discredit the overwhelming majority of the Ottawa protestors.
As for the claims about what the protestors are doing, multiple people have been streaming live from downtown Ottawa every day. Janet’s description does not match those live feeds – at least as far as the honking claim goes. Not to say there hasn’t been any, but I watched a lot and have heard very, very little honking over the past few days. The videos are up on the web for anyone to view. As are the press conferences given by the Ottawa protest leaders.
Why are people relying on others for information and conclusions when they can review videos themselves? Just like Covington and Rittenhouse, the video evidence is there but those with pre-formed opinions have no interest in ensuring their opinions reflect reality. So they listen to ignorant reporters who are reporting unfacts.
“The cure would be to persuade the protesters to abandon the alternate reality they have created for themselves amid a hothouse media environment steeped in conspiracy theories. They need to return to a shared reality with their fellow Canadians.”
This is uncharitable and completely ignorant of the reality shown in the unedited, live video footage I have seen. I’ve watched hours of footage, and with few exceptions, most of the dozens of impromptu street interviews that happened while I watched just reflected a desire to end mandates. Many of the protesters are vaccinated. What “alternate reality” is she talking about? Again, there’s tons of raw video footage that suggests Janet’s the one not working with facts.
Michael
Feb 19 2022 at 6:56am
Interesting point about what is and isn’t ‘peaceful.’ There’s certainly a difference between blocking roads and bridges vs the actual violence of an assault or a riot. But also a difference between a protest that allows people to go about their business and one that does not.
I think that if people want to block roads and bridges, fine, but they need to be prepared to be arrested, charged, and prosecuted for the laws they broke. Regardless of their cause.
Zeke5123
Feb 19 2022 at 9:34am
Blocking roads is a way of taking a public good and making it private. It should generally be seen as trespass. So I agree.
I would’ve preferred if all truckers just did a general strike. Yes that has spillover effects but there is no right to a truck driver’s labor (outside of anything negotiated with employer).
In the end, this protest has been remarkably peaceful in context of recent protests and the odious government overreach that engendered these protests. That isn’t to excuse misbehaving (ie turning public into private) but it does somewhat reek of an isolated demand for rigor.
David Henderson
Feb 19 2022 at 11:17am
You wrote:
Very well put. Especially the last clause.
Mark Brady
Feb 19 2022 at 6:05pm
“Blocking roads is a way of taking a public good and making it private.”
Whatever the rights or wrongs of blocking public roads, public roads are rarely public goods, as economists define a public good. If a particular public road were a public good, then it would be nonrivalrous, and users would not face a capacity constraint.
Zeke5123
Feb 20 2022 at 7:49am
Correct. I should’ve said public property. Wrote too hastily.
David Henderson
Feb 19 2022 at 11:16am
You wrote:
I agree. That was the point I made in my earlier post that I referenced in this one.
BS
Feb 19 2022 at 1:59pm
>Some would melt away; some wouldn’t.
There you go with that “marginal thinking” thing that economists do. Making life very hard for us black-and-white, all-or-nothing types.
The protest assembly which has been a regular occurrence in the vicinity of 200th St and Hwy 1 in Langley before moving on to Vancouver, is not happening today. Don’t know if it moved (the theatre has closed its parking lot), or has been cancelled; if cancelled, don’t know if due to announced restriction draw-downs or enforcement.
Frank Jaeckle
Feb 19 2022 at 3:15pm
It seems to me that the “hothouse media environment” is the lockstep corporate media who have lied, and lied, and lied about the truckers to stoke the flames of division and hate. I know this because I have seen their reports, dripping with contempt, and I can compare them with the 30+ hours of live-streaming that I have watched. And I have lost all respect for anyone who dismisses another as a conspiracy theorist in order to marginalize rather that engage the argument.
steve
Feb 19 2022 at 5:23pm
Is your point here that when anyone protests something because they think it impinges upon their liberty that the govt should agree and do what the protestors want? I hope not. Remember that what the protestors are doing here is way beyond the norm for Canada. In the Canadian BLM protests you had a few windows broken. As one Canadian broadcaster put it way less than what you get in the rare event of a Canadian hockey team winning the cup. The natives/Indians (whatever the correct term is now) shut down some rail lines but they didnt come into the cities and destroy people’s day to day lives. (Much smarter than the truckers IMO.) You just dont have a history of Canadian protests shutting down cities and disturbing daily living for days and now weeks.
This sets aside the issue of what the majority of people actually want. I fully understand the concerns about a majoritarian, pure democracy govt, but shouldn’t we also worry that if a small group is willing to take extreme measures, again extreme for Canada, they will always get what they want?
Steve
David Henderson
Feb 19 2022 at 6:49pm
You wrote:
No. My point is that government should not impinge on people’s liberty, whether or not there are protests. If government does impinge on people’s liberty, it’s legitimate to protest that and there’s nothing wrong with government listening to protestors and restoring liberty in response.
steve
Feb 19 2022 at 7:14pm
At what point does the government also listen to the people whose lives are being impacted by not being able to sleep due to the horns or have to worry an ambulance might not be able not reach them? Does the right to protest mean an unlimited right to inflict pain upon others? I think protest is important enough that they should have been allowed to block the roads for some time to make their point but after a few days they should have moved the trucks and stopped blowing the horns. The liberty of the guy in the 2nd floor apartment next to the truck blaring at night is just as important as that of the guy blowing the horn.
Steve
robc
Feb 19 2022 at 8:16pm
Let the government stop impinging liberty first. Then, if the trucker keeps honking, do something about it.
steve
Feb 20 2022 at 9:32am
So you are in agreement that whenever someone claims, doesn’t matter if they are correct, that liberty is being hurt they should always get their way? Or just when you agree with them? Why do the protesters matter more than the people who live there? Just because you agree with them?
Steve
robc
Feb 20 2022 at 2:44pm
Claim isnt enough, they have to be right.
The state loses all claims to authority when they become authoritarian.
As for the people that live there, they are free to defend their rights, with force even, but arent free to call upon an authoritarian government to do it for them.
Anders
Feb 21 2022 at 7:34am
I would guess that, say, 80% of Canadians would agree with some version of (a) it is time to loosen restrictions; (b) up until now, restrictions on people criss-crossing borders are among the more sensible restrictions in place; (c) freedom of speech; (d) that blocking bridges warrants coercion, but expressing dissent and supporting political positions apart from the most vile does not.
The question then becomes that given such broad consensus on the core issues involved, how did we get to a place where Trudeau uses language and imposes restrictions that prompts a left-wing pundit such as Bill Maher to invoke the first Hitler comparison I have ever heard him made against someone in his own tribe? Let alone news coverage from otherwise non-descript, halcyon Canada that even here in Europe appears to trump that of the risk of imminent conflict with a nuclear-armed empire?
What would public choice, for instance, have to say?
johnson85
Feb 21 2022 at 6:22pm
It is a difficult line to draw on when a government abuse is so bad that it’s acceptable to interfere with other people that are uninvolved with the abuse but don’t actively try to prevent it. Part of this is a moral question (at what point is abuse so bad that otherwise innocent bystanders are obligated to stand up against it because of being in a putative democracy/republic) and part is political (at what point are you hurting your cause even if you’re morally justified).
The mandate is so stupid in addition to being immoral, I think the truckers are probably ok on the moral question, although I am open to being convinced otherwise and wouldn’t think somebody unreasonable for diagreeing.
But on the political question, I’d have trouble trusting the instincts of somebody that writes something like:
“The Convoy is not as serious a threat to democracy as the storming of the U.S. Capitol.” So it’s less than zero threat? Not to excuse bad actions of some of the people present on Jan. 6th, and not that there aren’t plenty of bad things that don’t rise to killing somebody, but there is not going to be a protest or riot that threatens democracy without the protesters/rioters actually killing anybody.
Also, not quite the same thing, but: “Canada is a less violent country than the United States, so the chance was always small that things would turn as violent as they did on Jan. 6” Granted it’s just a couple of videos so not really representative, but the only videos I’ve seen the police involved in Canada look just as ready to be violent as the ones at Jan. 6th. They haven’t shot anybody in the back yet, but they certainly seem to be willing to escalate violence. I can believe that Canadian citizens on average are less violent than US ones (that seems pretty clear from the data), but I wouldn’t be so confident that Canadian LEOs don’t have more than enough supply of thugs ready to be violent.
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