
The Chinese government engages in all sorts of conspiracies. They conspire to deny the reality of the Uyghur concentration camps. They conspire to deny the crimes of Mao. They conspire to cast doubt on the fact that COVID likely originated in China (probably in an animal market, but perhaps a lab leak.) But China’s government cannot hide the truth. These conspiracies are almost laughably ineffective in affecting world opinion.
Here’s another example of a Chinese cover-up:
Evidence of a wave of Covid-19 deaths is beginning to emerge in Beijing despite official tallies showing no fatalities since an uncontrolled outbreak began sweeping through China’s capital this week.
Staff at one crematorium in Beijing said they cremated the bodies of at least 30 Covid victims on Wednesday and Financial Times reporters saw two body bags at a special hospital designated for coronavirus patients.
“We cremated 150 bodies [on Wednesday], many times more than a typical day last winter,” said an employee at the state-owned Beijing Dongjiao Funeral Home who asked not to be named. “Thirty or 40 had Covid.”
I didn’t need to read the Financial Times to learn this fact, as my wife often chats on the phone with people in Beijing and it’s common knowledge that China’s capital is in the midst of a big COVID outbreak. So, should we accept all theories about Chinese cover-ups? No, only those supported by the evidence.
During late 2020 and 2021, China reported an extremely low number of COVID cases. I do NOT believe that those reports were precisely accurate, but do I believe they were roughly accurate. Oddly, while the Financial Times story shows that the Chinese government is not to be trusted, it also shows that they cannot succeed in covering up major COVID outbreaks. Of course the information will leak out.
During late 2020 and 2021, the Chinese government reacted to small COVID outbreaks with the most draconian policies in the world. The conservative media in America argued that this zero COVID policy could not possibly be succeeding as advertised. I believe it did succeed for almost two years (although I strongly oppose the policy in any case.)
The truth is that zero COVID policies can work fairly effectively in some cases. Australia reported one death from COVID in the first half of 2021, a time during which the US reported 1/4 million COVID deaths. I also believe the Australian claim to be roughly true. There are other examples of successful zero COVID policies in various countries in the period before the virus mutated to become so infectious that it became almost impossible to control. While I don’t believe those policies passed the cost-benefit test, especially after vaccines were available, they worked to a limited extent. In October 2020, my wife visited Beijing and saw a city free of COVID, where life went on as normal. Major COVID outbreaks cannot be hidden.
There’s also a conspiracy theory that China’s GDP is far lower than what is shown by official figures. I tend to doubt that claim. China’s reported GDP/person ($12,970) is much lower than the US figure ($75,180). Even in PPP terms, China has a relatively low GDP per capita, comparable to a Latin American country. I’ve been to China many times (including western and rural regions), and it always seems at least as rich as the official figures suggest.
Conspiracy theories should be accepted or rejected on the evidence, not based on whether one is predisposed to like or dislike the entity accused of a cover-up.
Conspiracy theories are seductive for the same reason that we like Hollywood thrillers. It’s fascinating to contemplate a vast government conspiracy to murder JFK or to fake a moon landing. Reality is more boring. Most of the conspiracy theories that are true are the ones out there in plain view—such as the Chinese government cover-up of concentration camps or their current cover-up of Beijing’s COVID outbreak. Be skeptical of claims of conspiracies so vast that they are not even known to the media. It’s not that they never happen, but they are far less likely to be true.
READER COMMENTS
vince
Dec 16 2022 at 3:31pm
“Be skeptical of claims of conspiracies so vast that they are not even known to the media. ”
Which media? Twitter? Facebook?
Scott Sumner
Dec 16 2022 at 3:57pm
Well, in this case I found out about it in the Financial Times. But I imagine that lots of news outlets are reporting this story. I’ve never looked at Facebook, so I can’t comment.
I’d say that 90% of the time when a commenter tells me that the “MSM” is not reporting a story, I find that they are in fact covering the story
vince
Dec 16 2022 at 5:48pm
Even when MSM covers a story, the question is, which version are they pushing? Is it half-truth masquerading as truth? I wish I had a source or sources I could rely on. After all the lies about Covid, among others, I have little confidence in any media. They all seem to have an agenda, and too often, they regurgitate “official” sources. My only solution is time consuming–compare various sources and try to guess what may be accurate.
Mark Z
Dec 16 2022 at 4:50pm
Wasn’t the Economist (a pretty mainstream part of the Media) reporting that China’s case and fatality numbers were vastly underreported even last year? So whether true or not, that ‘conspiracy theory’ was ‘known’ to at least some of the media back then. More anecdotes from friends’ WhatsApp conversations now than before isn’t convincing. If the crematoriums recorded the number of cremations in 2020 and 2021, and can show that they weren’t unusually high a year ago unlike now, then that’s evidence.
Scott Sumner
Dec 16 2022 at 5:44pm
I never saw any good evidence for that claim. Some people have tried to estimate excess death data, but you really need to know what you are doing in that area—not sure the press is competent to do so. Basically, China went from “almost everyone doesn’t know a single person who ever had covid” in 2021, to “everyone knows of lots of covid cases” in 2022.
Again, the figures were clearly a bit lower than actual, but my point is that it looks like China did about as well as Australia was doing in the first half of 2021. They really did achieve near zero cases. You can’t hid a pandemic.
Jim Glass
Dec 16 2022 at 6:53pm
More info from & about Beijing: Not good.
The conservative media in America argued that this zero Covid policy could not possibly be succeeding as advertised. I believe it did succeed for almost two years (although I strongly oppose the policy in any case.)
Total lockdowns leave the entire population totally vulnerable to future infection. The only way they can “succeed” if they are used as part of a plan to buy time to get the population immunized and the hospital system reinforced.
So they could have had a big success if they’d spent the last three years giving their citizens good vaccines, adding intensive care beds and stocking pharmacies. But by the reports I see it looks like they’ve done none of this. There are still only 3.6 of ICU beds per 100,000 people, hospitals already are swamped, and the ill can’t even get drugs like Ibuprofen.
What did they imagine would happen when they inevitably ended the lockdowns? For some reason it reminds me of Doctor Strangelove: “For a Doomsday Machine to work you must tell people about it. Why didn’t you tell anybody?”
Scott Sumner
Dec 16 2022 at 11:00pm
That’s exactly my view as well.
Mark Z
Dec 19 2022 at 2:58am
In retrospect, it the western/democratic governments should’ve been strongly encouraging the Chinese to give their population western vaccines for a while now, to prevent the country from seeding new variant epidemics. Just tell the Chinese they can rebrand the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines as Sinovax 2.0 for PR purposes. Frustrating as it may be the cost of the whole world dealing with new highly contagious variants probably isn’t worth it just to see the Chinese government with egg on its face.
Jim Glass
Dec 16 2022 at 7:33pm
Other China conspiracies…
Who was really behind the recent protests in China (which ended the Covid lockdowns)?
China’s ambassador to France, Lu Shaye, provides a ‘Quote of the Week‘.
(Where is the Chinese public’s rising “anti-foreign bigotry” coming from? I just don’t know…)
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There’s also a conspiracy theory that China’s GDP is far lower than what is shown by official figures.
Are you referring to the cabal operating out of the University of Chicago?
Can’t trust the likes of them. 🙂
Ahmed Fares
Dec 16 2022 at 9:14pm
My favorite source for information about Covid is Dr. John Campbell. In the following YouTube video at around the 8-minute mark, he discusses the R-naught number.
Original Wuhan variant: 2.4
Latest variant: 10 to 18.6
This will spread very quickly. If it’s the higher number, that’s about what measles spread looks like.
Chinese massive spread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmPONj8bjIw
Billt
Dec 17 2022 at 7:09am
“It’s fascinating to contemplate a vast government conspiracy to murder JFK or to fake a moon landing. Reality is more boring. ”
I would say the opposite. The moon landing and all we learned about the moon is endlessly fascinating. I’ve seen rocks from the moon. How cool is that?
The idea that the government is competent enough to kill JFK or fake a moon landing seems beyond belief.
Jim Glass
Dec 17 2022 at 11:18am
The idea that the government is competent enough to kill JFK or fake a moon landing seems beyond belief.
The logic behind the great government conspiracies.
It’s funny because it’s true!
Billt
Dec 17 2022 at 2:42pm
Great Link. I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.
Matthias
Dec 18 2022 at 1:07am
To fake the moon landing they would have had to either dupe the Soviets and Chinese as well, or get them in on the hoax.
TMC
Dec 17 2022 at 12:33pm
Another (conspiracy?) theory is that China’s population has been shrinking, not growing, for the past decade. I really can’t find any reliable data though. Any thoughts?
Scott Sumner
Dec 18 2022 at 10:36am
I think the Chinese population data is roughly correct, but it’s possible that it slightly overstates growth. Their official figures will probably show a decline next year.
The Chinese government may not even have precisely accurate data—it’s a big country. But there seems to be no question that the population is headed down from this point forward.
Phil H
Dec 17 2022 at 3:09pm
Yeah, as Scott says, you can’t hide a pandemic. I live in southern China, and the changes are fast and dramatic.
The big takeaways from the past couple of weeks have been:
(1) Protest works. The Urumqi fire was the immediate cause, but ongoing frustration clearly boiled over into (another) round of protests, and this time, the national government responded. Protest doesn’t work every time, but often it’s the only thing that can drive change.
(2) The changes following the policy change were fast. Here in Xiamen, there was a child fatality, and all schools (up to age 15) were immediately shut down. They’ve glossed it as shifting the Chinese New Year holiday early. I don’t know what’s going to happen next term, and I’m guessing the local government doesn’t, either. They’re just playing it by ear, seeing what’s logistically and politically possible. It’s a mess, and obviously very different to what we’ve had for the last year, which was essentially well-controlled, with almost zero cases.
Spencer
Dec 18 2022 at 9:10am
“Illusory trust effect”
“People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election.” – Otto von Bismarck
MACRONOMICS
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Spencer
Dec 18 2022 at 9:34am
Jerome Powell thinks banks are financial intermediaries:https://www.bis.org/review/r170309b.pdf
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“We trust financial intermediaries to hold and transfer funds in a safe and secure manner to meet the needs of commerce. The payments system provides financial institutions and their customers a variety of ways to transfer funds, but the goal is essentially the same in all cases: to move money from one individual or business to another in a reliable, secure, low-cost, and convenient manner.”
Speech by Governor Powell on innovation, technology, and the payments system – Federal Reserve Board
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If people knew the truth, there’d be some lynchings. Banks don’t lend deposits. Deposits are the result of lending. The increased lending capacity of the financial intermediaries is comparable to the increased credit creating capacity of the commercial banks in only one instance; namely, the situation involving a single bank which has received a primary deposit and all newly created deposits flow to other banks in the system.
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But this comparison is superficial since any expansion of credit by a commercial bank enlarges the money supply, whereas any extension of credit by an intermediary simply transfers the ownership of existing money.
robc
Dec 19 2022 at 11:15am
Speaking of conspiracy theories:
Philly Fed has corrected job gain numbers from March-June 2022 from +1,121,500 net new jobs to +10,500.
I see 3 possibilities.
One, this is normal variation in the data (which doesn’t preclude possibility 2).
Two, incompetence.
Three, pre-election fudging of the data that can be corrected post-election.
3 is the conspiracy theory, obviously. But I worry that Occam is pointing that way from the grave.
Scott Sumner
Dec 19 2022 at 3:59pm
This is exactly the sort of conspiracy theory you should NOT believe. First, consider the people spreading the rumor of pre-election disinformation. Are any of them reliable? AFAIK, they are mostly political hacks. Second, this sort of revision occurs all the time, and the models used are subject to wide error. We don’t know if the new figures are correct. Third, job growth in the previous period was revised upward. Was the low initial estimate also a conspiracy? Fourth, the ADP figures continue to show very strong job growth in Q2:
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/adp-employment-change
Are they part of the conspiracy?
robc
Dec 19 2022 at 5:02pm
Hence my point #1, and it being first. But it seems like a (does calculation) 10581% error is higher than normal (assuming these numbers are correct). And yes I realize the percentage is only so large because the “true” number is so close to zero.
Ignoring the percentage, is off by 1 million really normal?
Floccina
Dec 19 2022 at 5:19pm
I always pushed against the JFK murder conspiracies but it seems that the government keeps pushing back the release of all the data that they have and I have no idea why.
BTW I think secrecy is overrated and Government keeps too much secret.
I still don’t buy any of the theories but I’m wavering.
Jim Glass
Dec 20 2022 at 1:28pm
I always pushed against the JFK murder conspiracies…
This is one conspiracy theory that has so much evidence supporting it that is it is getting hard to argue.
I’ve seen proof that the Soviets killed JFK, Castro did, the CIA did, the Mafia did, LBJ did… Add it all up, how can it not be true!
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